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>> Amber: IT'S A PORTABLE VIDEO PLAYER SHOWDOWN TODAY ON CALL FOR HELP! (Theme plays: Funky instrumental music)

>> Leo: HEY, HELLO, HOW ARE YA? GOOD TO SEE YOU! WELCOME. IT'S TIME FOR CALL FOR HE-E-ELP! THIS IS THE SHOW -- HELP! -- WHERE WE ANSWER YOUR CALLS FOR HELP, WHETHER IT'S A COMPUTER, INTERNET, M.P.3 PLAYERS, ANY KIND OF TECHNOLOGY.

>> Leo: IF IT'S GOT A CHIP IN IT, WE WILL HELP YOU WITH IT. I AM LEO LAPORTE, AND JOINING ME TO HELP YOU, THE LOVELY AMBER MacARTHUR.

>> Amber: HEY, LEO.

>> Leo: THIS IS FUN. ALL THESE LITTLE VIDEO PLAYERS --

>> Amber: I KNOW. THEY'RE REALLY FUN.

>> Leo: AH!

>> Amber: (Laughing)

>> Leo: THAT'S A LITTLE SCARY, THOUGH, THAT PICTURE OF ME YOU'VE GOT THERE. I DON'T KNOW.

>> Amber: YEAH, ACTUALLY, MIKEY DID THAT.

>> Leo: MIKEY DID THAT?

>> Amber: YEAH.

>> Leo: IS THAT A --

>> Amber: HE FROZE IT ON THAT PARTICULAR FACE.

>> Leo: THAT'S ONE THING ABOUT VIDEO IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE SEEN AS A STILL SHOT. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TIMES WHEN YOU DON'T LOOK SO GOOD. (Laughing)

>> Amber: THAT WAS AROUND HALLOWEEN, I THINK.

>> Leo: I MUST'VE BEEN MAKING A FACE. BUT, YEAH, YOU AND I BOTH MAKE VIDEO FOR PORTABLE PLAYERS NOW.

>> Amber: YES.

>> Leo: YOU DO "commandN," I DO "TWIT, THIS WEEK IN TECH." AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF INTEREST NOW.

>> Amber: YEAH, THERE DEFINITELY IS.

>> Amber: I THINK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STARVING FOR VIDEO CONTENT AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A TON OF IT ON THE iTUNES MUSIC STORES, SO THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, ACCESS IT. THEY WANT IT TO BE LEGAL.

>> Leo: MM-HMM.

>> Amber: AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WAYS YOU CAN GET IT, SO --

>> Leo: WELL, WE LIKE THE IDEA OF CARRYING IT AROUND WITH US.

>> Amber: YES!

>> Leo: I MEAN WHY BE TIED TO YOUR TV AND YOUR CABLE IF YOU COULD WATCH ANYTHING YOU WANTED ANYWHERE YOU WERE, YOU KNOW.

>> Amber: ESPECIALLY WITH THESE, WHICH HAVE, YOU KNOW, VIDEO OUT SO YOU CAN STILL WATCH THEM ON YOUR TV.

>> Leo: THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Amber: SO IT'S KIND OF THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS.

>> Leo: ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL GET A REVIEW OF THE TWO WE THINK ARE THE BEST RIGHT NOW OUT THERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, THE CREATIVE ZEN VISION AND THE iPOD WITH VIDEO. YOU NOTICE THEY DON'T CALL IT THE VIDEO iPOD OR THE ViPOD?

>> Amber: I KNOW, I KNOW.

>> Leo: IT'S THE iPOD WITH VIDEO. THERE'S A REASON.

>> Amber: YES, I KNOW. WELL, I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD THAT.

>> Leo: WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> Amber: WELL, THIS IS MIKEY'S THEORY, BUT I AGREE WITH IT, IS THAT EVENTUALLY THEY'LL COME OUT WITH AN iPOD VIDEO THAT IS FLIPPED SO THE SCREEN IS HORIZONTAL, SO INSTEAD OF JUST, YOU KNOW, 2.5 INCHES ACROSS, IT'LL ACTUALLY BE SORT OF A FULL SCREEN. SO YOU CAN ALMOST FLIP THAT HORIZONTALLY.

>> Leo: THIS IS PROBABLY AN INTERIM DEVICE, BUT I DO THINK THAT WHAT THEY WANT TO UNDERSCORE IS THAT IT'S STILL AN iPOD.

>> Amber: YES.

>> Leo: AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT IT IS THAT EVERYBODY WHO BUYS A HARD DRIVE BASED iPOD FROM NOW ON, IF YOU DON'T BUY THE SHUFFLE OR THE NANO, YOU'LL BE GETTING VIDEO EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT IT. IT'S JUST PART OF THE DEAL, SAME PRICE. AND SO I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF SAYING SUBCONSCIOUSLY TO PEOPLE, "NO, NO, IT'S AN iPOD FIRST," BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE AFRAID PEOPLE WILL GO, "I DON'T WANT A VIDEO PLAYER; I JUST WANT AN iPOD."

>> Amber: I THINK THEY'RE SMART TO DO THAT AS WELL.

>> Leo: YEAH, IT'S AN iPOD.

>> Amber: IT'S AN iPOD FIRST, AND YOU'RE ABLE TO WATCH VIDEO ON IT.

>> Leo: RIGHT.

>> Amber: BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE ARE GONNA COMPLAIN ABOUT THE VIEWING EXPERIENCE.

>> Leo: YEAH, "I DON'T WANT VIDEO; I JUST WANT TO LISTEN TO MUSIC." "FINE, THIS IS IT!" "NO, BUT I DON'T WANT VIDEO!" "BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS!" SEE, I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM THERE. BUT I THINK IT IS, IT'S STILL AN iPOD. AND LOOK HOW THIN THEY'VE GOTTEN. I HAVE THE 30 GIG ONE, WHICH IS EVEN THINNER THAN THIS.

>> Amber: YEAH, THIS IS THE 60 GIG.

>> Leo: THEY'VE GOTTEN SO -- 60 GIGABYTES IN THIS? THAT'S AMAZING!

>> Amber: IT'S VERY SLICK.

>> Leo: A YOUNGSTER LIKE YOU PROBABLY DOESN'T REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I COME FROM A DAY WHEN A FIVE-MEGABYTE HARD DRIVE WAS $3,500 AND WAS THIS BIG, FIVE MEGABYTES! YOU KNOW, I GET MORE MEMORY IN MY CEREAL NOW. ALSO COMING UP, MIKE PEGG! HE IS GONNA PUT A PEG IN OUR MAP.

>> Amber: (Chuckling) VERY COOL. I'VE HEARD ABOUT MIKE.

>> Leo: GOOGLE MASHUPS WITH THE GOOGLE MAPS. HE'S THE KING OF GOOGLE MAPOLOGY. HE ACTUALLY RUNS A BLOG WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT ALL THE NEW GOOGLE MAPS. GOOGLE DID A VERY SMART THING WHEN THEY MADE THEIR GREAT GOOGLE MAPS. THEY SAID, "YOU CAN MAKE SOFTWARE THAT USES THE GOOGLE MAPS. HERE'S HOW." AND SO PEOPLE HAVE WEB PAGES OF ALL SORTS OF COOL THINGS.

>> Amber: OH, THERE'S SUCH GREAT SERVICES OUT THERE.

>> Leo: WE'VE SHOWN A FEW.

>> Amber: YEAH, WE'VE SHOWN GMAP PEDOMETER, WHICH IS TO TRACE YOUR RUNNING ROUTES.

>> Leo: YEAH.

>> Amber: THERE'S A FEW OTHERS. CRAIGSLIST, I THINK, IS INTEGRATED WITH GOOGLE MAPS, SO YOU CAN SEE -- YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE APARTMENT-HUNTING, YOU CAN FIND OUT WHERE EVERYTHING IS.

>> Leo: YOU SENT ME ONE THAT I FELL IN LOVE WITH RIGHT AWAY, CALLED FRAPPR.

>> Amber: OH, I LOVE FRAPPR!

>> Leo: AND WE'RE GONNA START A CALL FOR HELP FRAPPR LATER IN THE SHOW. WE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT. ALSO, LAZAZZERA IS HERE. MIKEY LASAGNA IS GONNA DO A ROUNDUP OF KEYBOARDS.

>> Amber: YOU'RE DEAD. (Giggling)

>> Leo: HE REALLY DOESN'T LIKE THAT?

>> Amber: NO. (Giggling)

>> Leo: (Imitating Marlon Brando) HIS PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME AND GET ME.

>> Amber: (Giggling)

>> Leo: (Continues impersonation) MIKEY, MIKEY, MIKEY! KEYBOARD, COOL KEYBOARD ROUNDUPS. (Fancy phone ringing)

>> Leo: WHEN I HEAR THE PHONE RINGING, AND IF IT'S NOT MARLON BRANDO, IT MUST BE OUR FIRST CALL OF THE DAY! (Lively pop music)

>> Amber: YES, WE HAVE DEL ON THE LINE FROM PORT AUSTIN, MICHIGAN.

>> Leo: A LITTLE TRAVELLING MUSIC THERE FROM GREG, OUR SOUND GUY. (Grunting) HEY, BASIL! MM, YEAH! (Grunting)

>> Del: IT'S DEL.

>> Leo: DEL! OH, HELLO, DEL! HOW ARE YOU?

>> Del: WELL, I'M JUST FINE. I'M GLAD I GOT TO FINALLY TALK TO MY MENTOR.

>> Leo: MENTOR? ME?

>> Del: YEAH, I LIVE ON THE TIP OF THE THUMB, SO THERE'S NOBODY AROUND HERE TO TEACH ME ANYTHING, SO I HAVE TO WATCH YOUR SHOW, AND SO YOU'VE BECOME MY MENTOR.

>> Leo: PEOPLE AROUND HERE KNOW, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT FROM THE CENTRAL AREA OF THE COUNTRY, YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT MICHIGAN LOOKS LIKE A HAND, AND HE'S AT THE TIP OF THE THUMB, OF THE THUMB SHAPE.

>> Del: I'M SURROUNDED BY WATER ON THREE SIDES, AND I THINK I'M THE ONLY MAC ADDICT IN THE THUMB IN PORT AUSTIN, SO I HAVE TO EITHER READ A BOOK OR WATCH YOUR PROGRAM.

>> Leo: WELL, WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU, MR. MAC ADDICT?

>> Del: WELL, I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH ENTOURAGE.

>> Leo: ENTOURAGE!

>> Del: ALL MY MESSAGES ARE ALL GOING INTO THE JUNK. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A RECIPIENT OR EVEN IF I GO TO MY WIFE'S E-MAIL AND I SEND MYSELF A NOTE. IT GOES INTO THE JUNK MAIL.

>> Leo: (Laughing) WELL, THAT'S NOT VERY NICE! LET ME --

>> Del: NO, AND I'M PRETTY WELL-ADAPTED ON WORKING WITH COMPUTERS. I'VE TRIED, YOU KNOW, DUMPING THE PREFERENCES AND GETTING RID OF THE P-LIST FILES, AND IT STILL GOES INTO THE JUNK FOLDER.

>> Leo: OH, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

>> Del: SO I THOUGHT I NEEDED TO CALL YOU AND SEE WHAT YOU COULD DO FOR ME.

>> Leo: YEAH, THAT'S VERY ODD. NOW, HAVE YOU JUST, OUT OF CURIOSITY, CHECKED TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY RULES IN ENTOURAGE, ANY MESSAGE RULES TURNED ON?

>> Del: YEAH, I PUT IN ALL KINDS OF RULES IN THERE TO TRY TO, EVEN TO STOP THIS STUFF GOING INTO THE JUNK.

>> Leo: YEAH!

>> Del: SO, YEAH, I DO HAVE RULES IN THERE, BUT --

>> Leo: AND I TAKE IT YOU'VE TURNED --

>> Del: THE RULES ARE SAYING IF I GET JUNK MAIL, PUT IT IN THE JUNK.

>> Leo: WELL, AND I TAKE IT YOU'VE TURNED OFF JUNK MAIL PROTECTION, RIGHT? I MEAN... HAVE YOU TRIED THAT?

>> Del: YEAH. AND I'VE TRIED GETTING RID OF JUNK MAIL.

>> Leo: WELL, IF YOU GO --

>> Del: I SIT THERE AND, SAY, JUST GO BACK TO LEARNING.

>> Leo: NO, BUT IF YOU GO TO "TOOLS-JUNK MAIL PROTECTION," AND YOU SAY "NONE..."

>> Del: TO "TOOLS..."

>> Leo: "TOOLS-JUNK MAIL PROTECTION."

>> Leo: AND YOU SET IT TO "NONE."

>> Del: YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IT SET AT.

>> Leo: AND IT'S STILL MOVING STUFF THERE?

>> Del: YEAH.

>> Leo: (Laughing) OKAY. WELL, THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR THEN THAT IT'S NOT -- WELL, EITHER IT'S BROKEN, WHICH IS POSSIBLE, OR YOU'VE GOT A RULE THAT'S BEHAVING IN WAYS THAT YOU DON'T EXPECT, SO --

>> Del: WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING YOU SHOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE IF I DELETE FOUR OR FIVE OF MY RULES, THEN IT STARTS PUTTING EVERYTHING IN THE DELETED MESSAGES FOLDER.

>> Leo: (Blows raspberry) IF YOU HAVE NO RULES, IT DELETES EVERYTHING?

>> Del: (Laughing)

>> Leo: HOLY CAMOLY, YOU'VE GOT A MESS IN THERE! NOW, IT'S POSSIBLE IT'S MESSED UP, BUT I'M WONDERING -- NOW, THIS IS RULES -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENTOURAGE, WHICH IS MICROSOFT'S E-MAIL PROGRAM FOR THE MAC, BUT IT'S REALLY -- YOU KNOW, I MEAN THIS IS BASICALLY HOW ALL E-MAIL PROGRAMS WORK. YOU HAVE, SOMETIMES THEY CALL THEM FILTERS, BUT THESE ARE RULES FOR MAIL HANDLING. NOW, IT'S NOT SO HARD TO WRITE, YOU KNOW, A BAD RULE THAT WILL ACCIDENTALLY MOVE EVERYTHING TO SOMEWHERE YOU DON'T EXPECT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN I CAN -- YOU KNOW, I CAN SAY, "MOVE MESSAGE INTO" AND HAVE EVERYTHING BE MOVED TO THE DELETED FOLDER AUTOMATICALLY, WHICH YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO DO. YOU GOT A LOT OF RULES IN THERE?

>> Del: YEAH, I HAVE QUITE A FEW BECAUSE I GET SO MANY JUNK MAILS, SO LET ME --

>> Leo: I WOULD SAY WHAT I WOULD DO IS EXPORT ALL YOUR RULES. YOU KNOW, SAVE THEM ALL OUT. SO I THINK YOU CAN DO THAT. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IF YOU CAN OR NOT.

>> Leo: IF YOU CAN EXPORT YOUR RULES, DO.

>> Del: I HAVE 16 RULES.

>> Leo: YEAH, I WOULD EXPORT THEM AND THEN DELETE THEM ALL. SOMEHOW BACK THEM UP AND THEN DELETE THEM ALL SO YOU'VE GOT NO -- BECAUSE THIS IS HOW ENTOURAGE COMES -- NO RULES! OKAY?

>> Del: UH-HUH.

>> Leo: AND SEE IF IT'S STILL GOING TO THE DELETED FOLDER OR THE JUNK MAIL FOLDER. IF IT IS, THEN CLEARLY ENTOURAGE IS SCREWED UP IN SOME BIZARRE FASHION.

>> Del: NOW, GETTING RID OF THE P-LIST, SHOULDN'T THAT HAVE DONE SOMETHING FOR ME? (Laughing)

>> Leo: WELL, IF THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG. THE P-LIST IS THE PREFERENCES, AND IF THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG, BUT YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE, IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOME -- I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BIZARRE BEHAVIOUR. I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYWHERE -- YOU'RE NOT USING THE MAILING LIST MANAGER. YOU'VE TURNED OFF THE JUNK MAIL PROTECTION.

>> Del: YEAH, IT'S TURNED OFF.

>> Leo: I THINK THAT UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING IN HERE IN SETTING UP AN ACCOUNT THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO SOMETHING ODD -- YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE YOU HAVE THE DEFAULT FOLDER FOR THE ACCOUNT AS BEING THE DELETED FOLDER, IN WHICH CASE YOU SHOULD -- I WOULD CHECK THE ACCOUNT SETTINGS, AND I WOULD DELETE ALL YOUR RULES AND SEE IF THAT CAN HELP YOU, DEL.

>> Del: OKAY, I THINK THAT MIGHT DO IT.

>> Leo: YEAH, TRY THAT, BUT DO BACK UP YOUR RULES FIRST. YOU KNOW, WRITING RULES IS A BLACK ART. YOU DO IT WRONG, AND YOU CAN GET WEIRD BEHAVIOURS. IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY POWERFUL. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO DANGEROUS. THE MORE POWERFUL SOMETHING IS ON A COMPUTER, THE MORE YOU CAN MESS YOURSELF UP. I THINK IT'S WELL WORTH DOING, AND I HAVE LITERALLY -- YOU SAY 12?

>> Del: YEAH.

>> Leo: I HAVE 80 RULES, 90. I HAVE A HUGE LIST OF RULES THAT REALLY ARE HELPFUL IN ORGANIZING MY E-MAIL. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S FROM AMBER MacARTHUR, IT GOES RIGHT INTO THE MUST-READ BOX.

>> Amber: (Giggles)

>> Leo: IF IT'S FROM MIKE LAZAZZERA, WELL, YOU KNOW WHERE THAT GOES. SO THOSE RULES ARE VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY VALUABLE, BUT THEY CAN ALSO CAUSE PROBLEMS, SO I WOULD LOOK THERE FIRST, DEL.

>> Del: OKAY.

>> Leo: OKAY?

>> Del: WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> Leo: I THANK YOU FOR WATCHING US FROM THE THUMB.

>> Del: YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

>> Leo: ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GREAT DAY. TAKE CARE.

>> Del: YEAH, BYE.

>> Leo: ARE YOU THE TYPE WHO USES GOOGLE FOR EVERYTHING?

>> Leo: IF SOMEBODY SAYS, "CAN YOU VISIT ME AT 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON," DO YOU GO TO GOOGLE MAPS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE AND HOW FAR? DO YOU USE GOOGLE MAPS TO FIGURE OUT YOUR JOGGING ROUTE OR RESEARCHING YOUR VACATION? WE'LL EVEN SHOW YOU HOW YOU CAN USE GOOGLE MAPS TO FIND A HOUSE OR A JOB OR EVEN FIGURE OUT WHERE CRIME RATES ARE HIGHEST AND LOWEST. OUR NEXT GUEST IS THE KING OF THE GOOGLE MAPS. HE RUNS A BLOG THAT TALKS ABOUT ALL OF THESE MAPS AND A WHOLE LOT MORE. WE'LL SHOW YOU WHERE TO LOOK, HOW TO SEARCH IN ALL THE RIGHT PLACES, AFTER THE BREAK. STAY RIGHT HERE. (Funky techno music)

>> Homer Simpson: NO TIME FOR THAT NOW! THE COMPUTER'S STARTING!

>> Leo: (Laughing)

>> Leo: I LOVE GOOGLE MAPS. AS SOON AS GOOGLE MAPS CAME OUT, IT SAID, "BYE-BYE, YAHOO MAPS, BYE-BYE, MAPQUEST." OF COURSE, NOW YAHOO MAPS HAS IMPROVED TO COMPETE WITH GOOGLE MAPS, BUT THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. THE MORE THEY COMPETE, THE BETTER. ONE OF THE THINGS GOOGLE DID SMART, AND ACTUALLY YAHOO HAS NOW FOLLOWED SUIT, IS MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO TAKE GOOGLE'S MAPPING ENGINE AND DO COOL THINGS WITH IT. SO NOT ONLY IS GOOGLE MAPS A GREAT WAY TO FIND YOUR WAY AROUND THE WORLD, NOW YOU CAN ENHANCE AND CUSTOMIZE THEM TO RESEARCH ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. IN STUDIO WITH US TODAY, MIKE PEGG, WHO IS THE WEBMASTER BEHIND googlemashups.com. HE'S REALLY BECOME THE KING OF GOOGLE MAPS, KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THE GREAT GOOGLE MAPS OUT THERE. IT MUST BE A FUN -- DID YOU JUST DO THIS BECAUSE YOU KIND OF THOUGHT IT WAS COOL OR --

>> Mike: YEAH, AND THAT'S BECOMING A CHORE, TOO, BECAUSE AS THE POPULARITY PICKS UP, THEY'RE REALLY GETTING POPULAR, BUT --

>> Leo: HAVE YOU EVER DONE A GOOGLE MASHUP?

>> Mike: YOU KNOW WHAT? SO MUCH OF MY TIME IS POURED INTO THE BLOG THAT I HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE.

>> Mike: I'VE USED SITES LIKE FRAPPR, COMMUNITY WALK. YOU KNOW, WAYFARING IS A NEW ONE THAT I FOUND TODAY ACTUALLY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO CREATE A MAP FOR YOURSELF QUICKLY WITHOUT HAVING TO USE THE --

>> Leo: OH, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.

>> Leo: YOU COULD DO SOMETHING WITH HELP.

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, SO JUST TO BACK UP A BIT, THE GOOGLE MAPS ORIGINALLY CAME OUT SIMILAR TO A MAPQUEST OR YAHOO MAPS.

>> Leo: RIGHT.

>> Mike: FIND DIRECTIONS, FIND AN ADDRESS, THAT SORT OF THING. AND THEN WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY -- ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY PEOPLE WERE OPENING UP THE CODE TO GOOGLE MAPS THEMSELVES.

>> Leo: YEAH.

>> Mike: I MEAN I CALLED THEM "HACKS" IN THE BEGINNING.

>> Leo: THEY WERE LITERALLY HACKING IT.

>> Mike: THEY WERE, YEAH. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS GOOGLE CAME OUT WITH WHAT'S CALLED AN A.P.I., WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST LIKE A TOOL KIT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO OPEN UP THE HOOD, INTERACT WITH SOME OF THE CODE AND TWEAK THE MAP TO IMPORT YOUR OWN DATA INTO THE MAP.

>> Leo: SO APPLICATION PROGRAMMER'S INTERFACE, AND IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO USE THE ENGINE FOR THEIR OWN EVIL DIABOLICAL PURPOSES.

>> Mike: FOR WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE, WITHIN THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF GOOGLE, OF COURSE, RIGHT?

>> Leo: YEAH, IN ORDER TO DO IT, YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR AN ACCOUNT NUMBER, AND THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF QUERIES A DAY YOU CAN DO AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> Mike: YEAH. AND MOSTLY, I MEAN MOSTLY HOBBYISTS HAVE REALLY TAKEN A HOLD OF THIS. I'LL GO THROUGH A FEW TODAY, BUT --

>> Leo: YEAH, LET'S SEE SOME, YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS YOUR BLOG, GOOGLE MAPS MANIA.

>> Mike: YEP, AND I'VE GOT A -- IT'S ACTUALLY HOSTED AT BLOGSPOT, BUT I'VE GOT AN EASY WAY TO GET TO IT. IT'S gmapsmania.com.

>> Leo: OKAY.

>> Mike: AND THAT ACTUALLY FORWARDS THROUGH THE BLOGSPOT ADDRESS, JUST TO GET TO IT A LITTLE --

>> Leo: gmapsmania.com.

>> Mike: YEAH. SO THE LONG ADDRESS IS UP HERE AT THE TOP. BUT BASICALLY WHAT IT IS IS IT'S A BLOG THAT'S COVERING ALL OF THE LATEST AND GREATEST MASHUPS THAT ARE COMING BY.

>> Leo: I BET THIS IS A FULL-TIME JOB, ALTHOUGH PEOPLE MUST SEND THEM TO YOU.

>> Mike: YOU KNOW WHAT? AT FIRST I WAS HAVING TO KIND OF COMB BLOG LISTINGS AND FIND NEW ONES THAT THEY MADE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY SENT THEM TO ME RECENTLY, SO --

>> Leo: THAT'S GREAT. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF SITES, FOLKS, I PARTICULARLY LOVE.

>> Leo: I CALL THEM META SITES, SITES WHERE SOMEBODY WHO'S KIND OF FANATICAL ABOUT ONE THING HAS COLLECTED EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW, AND IF YOU COULD FIND THAT ONE SITE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANY TIME LOOKING FOR GOOGLE MAPS MASHUPS. YOU COULD FIND THEM BY JUST GOING TO YOUR SITE. THAT'S REALLY COOL. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME.

>> Mike: YEAH, SO BASICALLY, TO FIND THE CATEGORY LISTING -- AND THIS LISTING IS GETTING PRETTY LONG. I'VE ACTUALLY -- THIS WILL ALL MOVE OFF OF THIS BLOG SOON.

>> Leo: HOW MANY ARE THERE RIGHT NOW?

>> Mike: YOU KNOW, GOOGLE HOLDS THAT CLOSE. IT'S A CLOSELY GUARDED SECRET, I THINK, IN TERMS OF HOW MANY ACTUAL A.P.I. KEYS ARE OUT THERE OR ACCOUNTS.

>> Leo: RIGHT.

>> Mike: BUT I MEAN I'M LOOKING AT PROBABLY ABOUT 600 ON THIS PAGE.

>> Leo: HOLY COW!

>> Mike: YEAH.

>> Leo: HOLY COW!

>> Mike: SO IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE ONE LONG LIST KIND OF OUTGROWS ITSELF, SO VERY SOON, IF PEOPLE VISIT THE BLOG, YOU'LL START TO SEE IT MOVE OVER TO A DIRECTORY LISTING SOON.

>> Leo: YEAH, YEAH. EVENTUALLY YOU'LL HAVE TO USE GOOGLE TO FIND ONE OF YOUR MASHUPS ON THE GOOGLE NETWORK. (Laughing)

>> Mike: YEAH, LET'S HOPE THEY HOLD OFF ON INDEXING FOR AWHILE ANYWAY. SO, YEAH, WE'VE GOT THE MASHUPS AND TOOLS INDEX OVER HERE, AND I'VE GOT A LISTING HERE OF TOP PICKS, AND THESE ARE JUST BASICALLY SITES THAT I THINK IF SOMEONE'S NEW TO THE BLOG THEY CAN KIND OF GET THEIR FEET WET AND KNOW WHAT GOOGLE MAPS ARE. AND WHEN I SAY THE WORD "MASHUP," BASICALLY THAT'S A DATABASE OR A DATA SOURCE MASHED UP WITH A GOOGLE MAP, OKAY? SO THE FIRST ONE I'LL SHOW YOU IS A SITE CALLED -- IT'S CALLED TO 2realestateauctions.com.

>> Leo: MM-HMM?

>> Mike: AND WHAT THIS GUY'S DONE IS HE'S TAKEN THE EBAY A.P.I. AND THE GOOGLE MAPS A.P.I. AND MASHED IT TOGETHER.

>> Leo: SO ALL THE DOTS ON THE MAP HERE REPRESENT ONLINE EBAY REAL ESTATE AUCTIONS.

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT. AND WHAT HE'S DONE IS HE'S TAKEN THE ONES WITH THE HIGHEST BID COUNT, SORT OF ALERTING YOU TO THE FACT THAT THERE MIGHT BE A DEAL HERE. SO HE'S TAKEN REAL ESTATE --

>> Leo: THIS GUY'S SHARP. HE'S COMBINED TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN A REALLY GREAT WAY.

>> Mike: YEAH. SO IF YOU CLICK ON THAT ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S 15 BIDS.

>> Leo: LOOK AT THAT.

>> Mike: FOR THIS ARKANSAS RECREATIONAL RESORT PARADISE. SO IT'S BASICALLY JUST ALERTING YOU TO SOME OF THE AUCTIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING. SO A LOT OF THESE ARE REALLY ENHANCING SITES THAT ALREADY EXIST OR DATA THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE. ONE THAT I ACTUALLY FOUND THIS MORNING, JUST POPPED UP GETTING LOTS OF BLOG PLATE TODAY, IS CALLED WAYFARING, AND BASICALLY IT'S ONE OF THOSE SITES THAT ALLOW YOU TO CREATE YOUR OWN GOOGLE MAP WITHOUT HAVING TO KNOW A LOT OF CODE OR APPLY FOR THE A.P.I. SO BASICALLY ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS GO TO wayfaring.com, TAKE OUT AN ACCOUNT AND THEN JUST -- I'M ACTUALLY LOGGED IN AS MY ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW.

>> Leo: MM-HMM?

>> Mike: BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN -- LET'S ZOOM INTO... LET'S JUST TAKE TORONTO AS AN EXAMPLE. SO WE ZOOM INTO TORONTO. WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN CLICK OVER HERE ON "ADD A WAYPOINT," AND WE CAN ACTUALLY CLICK, TYPE THE NAME. LET'S JUST DO THE C.N. TOWER.

>> Leo: OKAY.

>> Mike: AND WE CAN --

>> Leo: EASY NAVIGATION.

>> Mike: YEAH, IT'S AN EASY REFERENCE POINT. SO UNDER "TAGS," WE CAN PUT THINGS LIKE "TORONTO," OR WE COULD DO --

>> Leo: SO IT SUPPORTS TAGS AS WELL.

>> Mike: IT DOES, YEAH, TAG SEARCHING FOR EACH OF THE MAPS. AND THEN WE CAN DESCRIBE IT. WE CAN SAY, "TALLEST FREE-STANDING STRUCTURE..."

>> Leo: MM-HMM.

>> Leo: (In deep voice) IN THE WORLD, MY FRIENDS. AND DON'T LET ANYBODY FORGET IT --

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo: IF YOU COME TO TORONTO. (Laughing)

>> Mike: SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN HIT "SAVE WAYPOINT," AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MAP.

>> Leo: SO YOU CAN EITHER CLICK ON THE MAP, OR YOU CAN PUT IN AN ADDRESS FOR THAT, YEAH.

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo: OKAY.

>> Mike: AH...

>> Leo: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ADDRESS IS.

>> Mike: "SAVE WAYPOINT."

>> Leo: WE HAVE TO PUT AN ADDRESS IN. YOU HAVEN'T SAID WHERE IT IS.

>> Mike: OH, THERE WE GO.

>> Leo: SO CLICK SOMEWHERE. (Chuckling) I CAN READ DIRECTIONS, TOO! (Chuckling) AND IT'S NOT IN ETOBICOKE, I KNOW THAT. (Laughing)

>> Mike: SO WE'LL FIND THE C.N. TOWER OVER HERE.

>> Leo: AH, THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE CLOSE NOW.

>> Mike: AH, GETTIN' CLOSE. THERE WE ARE RIGHT --

>> Leo: ZOOMIN' RIGHT IN. YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE ADDRESS IF YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK. WELL, LET'S JUST --

>> Leo: LET'S PUT IT IN THE TRAIN YARD. THERE IT IS.

>> Mike: RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRAIN TRACKS.

>> Leo: OKAY.

>> Mike: NO, WE DON'T.

>> Leo: DO YOU HAVE TO CLICK... CLICK HARDER?

>> Leo: CLICK ON THE MAP, IT SAYS. IT'S NOT LETTING YOU DO THAT?

>> Mike: IT'S NOT LETTING ME, YEAH.

>> Leo: HE OBVIOUSLY -- WELL, THIS IS NEW CODE.

>> Mike: ALL RIGHT, WELL --

>> Leo: WE FOUND A BUG ALREADY IN WAYFARING.

>> Mike: (Chuckling)

>> Leo: BUT I GET THE IDEA. NOW, SO YOU CAN MAKE A MAP OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT PINS?

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo: OKAY.

>> Mike: LET'S POP OVER TO ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY DONE. (Chuckles)

>> Leo: OKAY.

>> Mike: WHAT I'VE BOOKMARKED HERE, THIS BASICALLY HAS TAKEN DIFFERENT WEBCAMS AND POINTS OF TRAFFIC INFORMATION IN DOWNTOWN NEW YORK.

>> Leo: WOW!

>> Mike: OKAY, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE WHERE WAYPOINTS HAVE BEEN ADDED.

>> Leo: NOW, THIS ISN'T WAYFARING. THIS IS SOMEBODY ELSE'S SITE, RIGHT?

>> Mike: THIS IS A SEPARATE SITE ALTOGETHER. IT'S OFF A SITE CALLED alkemis.com. I'VE GOT IT LINKED AS ONE OF MY FAVOURITES OR TOP PICKS.

>> Leo: SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE CLICK ONE OF THESE? NOW, THIS SHOWS YOU YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THOSE RED GOOGLE DOTS, DO YOU? YOU CAN EVEN HAVE YOUR OWN COLOUR CODING.

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT. THIS IS SOMEONE THAT'S USING --

>> Leo: THIS IS A LIVE CAMERA!

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT. SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE TAKEN WEBCAMS AND MASHED IT UP WITH GOOGLE MAPS AS THE MAPPING INTERFACE AND THEN ALLOWED YOU TO LOOK AT --

>> Leo: SEE, IF YOU LIVED ON MANHATTAN, THIS WOULD BE FASCINATING.

>> Mike: YEAH, THAT LOOKS LIKE A -- LET'S POP INTO ANOTHER ONE WITH A LIVE CAMERA THERE. SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE A LIVE STREET VIEW. NOW, WHAT'S REALLY NEAT ABOUT THIS IS IF WE ZOOM RIGHT IN --

>> Leo: THAT'S REALLY AMAZING! THIS IS JUST A LITTLE SCARY. I MEAN THIS IS INCREDIBLE.

>> Mike: NOW IF YOU SWITCHED TO SATELLITE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY --

>> Leo: YOU COULD PROBABLY FOLLOW A CAR. YOU COULD PROBABLY FOLLOW A CAR USING THIS FROM CAMERA TO CAMERA.

>> Mike: THERE YOU GO.

>> Leo: YOU COULD SPY ON SOMEBODY.

>> Mike: AND THE SATELLITE IMAGERY GIVES YOU A BIT OF REAL CONTEXT TO IT. NOW, ONE OF MY PERSONAL FAVOURITES IS ONE THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MIGHT SHOW THE FUTURE OF HOW PUBLIC TRANSIT MAY OPERATE IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT'S TAKEN PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE DATA FROM AN IRISH RAIL SITE. THIS IS IN DUBLIN. AND WHAT HE'S DONE IS ALL HE'S DOING IS SCRAPING THE REALTIME LOCATIONS OF COMMUTER TRAINS.

>> Leo: SO THIS IS WHERE THE TRAINS ARE RIGHT NOW?

>> Mike: THIS IS A REALTIME MAP OF SHOWING LOCATIONS OF WHERE COMMUTER TRAINS RIGHT NOW ARE BUZZING ALONG THE TRACKS.

>> Leo: THAT IS AMAZING.

>> Mike: WHAT'S REALLY NEAT ABOUT THIS -- SO BASICALLY EACH OF THESE TRAINS HAS A G.P.S. UNIT ON THE TRAIN, AND IT'S BASICALLY SHOWING US --

>> Leo: OH, IT'S MOVING AS WE GO.

>> Mike: -- WHAT TRAIN THAT IS, WHAT LINE IT IS, AND WHEN WE ZOOM OUT, WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT TRAIN THAT IS. SO IF I LIVE IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE AND I'VE GOT A MOBILE DEVICE WITH A WEB BROWSER ON IT, I CAN GO TO THIS MASHUP, SEE WHERE THE TRAIN IS --

>> Leo: AND RUN!

>> Mike: AND KNOW IF I NEED TO RUN OR IF I CAN WALK.

>> Leo: (Laughing) THAT IS GREAT! THIS IS THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE FOR EVERYTHING WE DO!

>> Mike: ABSOLUTELY.

>> Leo: OKAY, WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE GOOD ONE.

>> Mike: OKAY, WELL, ONE MORE --

>> Leo: OH, TWO MORE, WE SHOULD DO TWO MORE!

>> Mike: DO TWO MORE.

>> Leo: BECAUSE I LIKE YOUR BEER ONE. I WANT TO DO THE BEER ONE.

>> Mike: OKAY, SURE.

>> Leo: BUT WE GOTTA SHOW THE FRAPPR.

>> Mike: OKAY, SO FRAPPR IS BASICALLY A SITE WHERE YOU CAN CREATE A MAP FOR EITHER YOUR WEBSITE, YOUR CLUB, YOUR GROUP OR YOUR SHOW.

>> Leo: IN THIS CASE, I CREATED ONE FOR CALL FOR HELP. VERY EASY, IT TOOK ME ABOUT THREE STEPS.

>> Mike: YEAH.

>> Leo: SO IF YOU GO TO F-R-A-P-P-R DOT COM SLASH C-F-H, THAT'S OUR MAP, AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE PEOPLE PUT PUSH-PINS IN WHERE THEY ARE.

>> Mike: SO LET'S BE THE FIRST, SHALL WE? WE'LL ZOOM INTO TORONTO AGAIN.

>> Leo: OKAY.

>> Mike: WE WON'T TRY AND FIND THE C.N. TOWER THIS TIME.

>> Leo: NO, JUST -- YOU CAN JUST ENTER THE NAME, RIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY DO ANY ZOOMING.

>> Mike: UM...

>> Leo: YOU JUST SCROLL DOWN.

>> Mike: I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A SEARCH.

>> Leo: YEAH, THERE YOU GO, RIGHT THERE. SEE? YOU HAVEN'T USED THIS IN AWHILE. RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM, JUST FILL IT OUT. THERE YOU GO!

>> Mike: WHOOPS, SO I'M GONNA SAVE -- LET'S DO TORONTO ACTUALLY.

>> Leo: YEAH, THERE WE GO. AND YOU HAVE TORONTO, OHIO, OR TORONTO, CANADA.

>> Mike: WE'LL TAKE CANADA.

>> Leo: THERE WE GO. AND... "CALL FOR HELP IS GREAT." I LIKE THAT!

>> Mike: COOL! WE CAN DO A PICTURE IF WE HAVE ONE, BUT WE'LL JUST ADD IT FOR NOW.

>> Leo: AND NOW WE HAVE OUR FIRST PEG! NO, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE AN ACCOUNT.

>> Mike: NO, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE AN ACCOUNT.

>> Leo: SAY "NO THANKS" THERE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THAT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT THEY ADDED LATELY. I DON'T KNOW WHY. I GUESS THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE A -- LOOK, WE'VE GOT TWO LISTENERS, TWO VIEWERS!

>> Mike: SO THERE'S OUR LITTLE BUBBLE.

>> Leo: MIKE IN TORONTO AND ME IN CALIFORNIA.

>> Mike: HEY, THERE'S LEO!

>> Leo: (Laughing) WELL, I STARTED IT. I HAD TO PUT MY FACE IN THERE.

>> Mike: (Chuckling)

>> Leo: SO THAT'S frappr.com SLASH C-F-H.

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo: WITH NO "E."

>> Mike: FRAPPR!

>> Leo: F-R-A-P-P-R. NOW SHOW US ONE MORE!

>> Mike: OKAY, SO ONE MORE. THIS IS ONE I WAS SENT LAST NIGHT BY A FELLOW IN TORONTO, AND WHAT HE'S DONE IS HE'S TAKEN --

>> Leo: "FIND BEER ON GOOGLE."

>> Mike: THAT WAS THE TITLE FOR THE BLOG POST. SO HE'S GOT beerhunter.cA, AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS DOING -- HE'S ONLY GOT TORONTO TO START WITH, BUT I MEAN TOURISTS --

>> Leo: THAT'S PROBABLY ALL YOU NEED.

>> Mike: HEY, TOURISTS THAT ARE IN TOWN MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THIS AS WELL. YOU CAN BASICALLY CLICK ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS.

>> Mike: L.C.B.O. -- JUST TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND, YOU CAN'T BUY BEER OR LIQUOR IN ONTARIO IN A CORNER STORE, SO SPECIFICALLY GOVERNMENT-RUN COMPANIES SELL IT, SO --

>> Leo: AND THE COLOUR OF THE PIN SAYS WHETHER IT'S OPEN OR CLOSED?

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CLOSED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE TIME OF DAY.

>> Leo: NO, IT'S A GOOD TIME TO BUY BEER, BABY!

>> Mike: THAT'S RIGHT. SO YOU CAN GO CLICK ON BEER. YOU CAN SEE THE HOURS, WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.

>> Leo: THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO'S VERY DEDICATED TO HIS BEER.

>> Mike: ABSOLUTELY.

>> Leo: (Laughing)

>> Mike: AND THIS COULD BE VERY POPULAR --

>> Leo: TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT HOW YOU CAN USE THESE MAPS AND UP TO 600 NEW MAPS, AMAZING, AND MORE ALL THE TIME, gmapsmania.com. MIKE PEGG IS ITS CREATOR AND THE KEEPER OF THE MAPS. FOR LINKS TO SOME OTHER EXAMPLES THAN THE ONES WE SHOWED YOU, GO TO OUR SHOW NOTES, callforhelptv.com. THANKS, MIKE. (Hard rock music)

>> Leo: NOW IT'S TIME TO COMBINE TECHNOLOGY WITH TRIVIA. IT'S OUR NEXXTECH QUIZ MASHUP.

>> Amber: WELCOME BACK TO CALL FOR HELP. TIME FOR OUR MAC TIP OF THE DAY. HERE'S HOW YOU CAN DELETE MESSAGES FROM ONE SENDER IN MAIL.

>> Amber: ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO PREFERENCES IN MAIL, CREATE A RULE. I'M GONNA CLICK "ADD RULE," AND THIS RULE WILL BE TO DELETE MIKEY'S MESSAGES.

>> Leo: (Laughing)

>> Amber: (Laughing) AND THEN I CAN GO AND I CAN ENTER MIKEY'S E-MAIL ADDRESS, mikey@callforhelptv.com...

>> Leo: THEY CALL THAT THE BOZO BUCKET. (Both laughing)

>> Amber: AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER CALLER. WE HAVE PAUL ON THE WEBCAM FROM BEND, OREGON.

>> Leo: (Laughing) MIKEY'S PRETENDING HE'S NOT LISTENING.

>> Amber: (Laughing)

>> Leo: (Laughing) HEY, HOW ARE YOU, MR. BEND OREGON?

>> Paul: VERY GOOD, LEO. HOW ARE YOU?

>> Leo: I'M DOING -- OH!

>> Paul: MY PLEASURE. I'VE BEEN WATCHING YOU FOR YEARS!

>> Leo: WELL, THAT'S SO NICE TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW!

>> Paul: YOU'LL SAVE TWO OF MY COMPUTERS FROM BEING PITCHED OUT THE WINDOW! (Both laughing)

>> Leo: I WOULD HATE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN! SO WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU, PAUL?

>> Paul: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YA ABOUT GIBSON RESEARCH. I WENT DOWN TO SHIELDS UP.

>> Leo: YES!

>> Paul: AND CHECKED OUT ALL MY PARTS.

>> Leo: GREAT SITE.

>> Paul: MY PORTS ARE CLOSED, BUT WHEN I GO DOWN, I FIND THAT I FAIL THE TEST BECAUSE MY COMPUTER SENDS A PING RESPONSE.

>> Leo: AH, OKAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. YOU WENT TO --

>> Paul: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SHUT THE PING RESPONSE OFF --

>> Leo: I'LL SHOW YOU. IT'S VERY EASY TO DO.

>> Paul: COULD YOU HELP ME WITH THAT?

>> Leo: I WOULD BE GLAD TO. NOW, HE'S TALKING ABOUT grc.com, AND STEVE GIBSON, WHO'S A REGULAR ON THE SHOW AND HIS SHIELDS UP, WHICH IS -- IF YOU GO DOWN THE PAGE A LITTLE BIT, YOU'LL FIND IT -- IS HIS TESTER OF YOUR INTERNET SECURITY.

>> Leo: SO IF YOU DO THE TEST, IT WILL TELL YOU ABOUT HOW YOUR FIREWALL IS WORKING, AND IN PARTICULAR WHETHER YOUR PORTS ARE OPEN, CLOSED OR STEALTHED. NOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF A PORT IS OPEN, IT MEANS A HACKER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WANDER RIGHT ONTO YOUR COMPUTER. IF THEY'RE CLOSED, WELL, THAT'S GOOD. IT MEANS LIKE THE DOOR IS LOCKED, BUT IT MEANS THAT IT IS RESPONDING. NOW, YOU SEE I HAVE FAILED MY ANALYSIS AS WELL. STEALTH IS WHAT YOU WANT. THAT MEANS NO RESPONSE AT ALL. IT'S AS IF THERE'S NO MACHINE AT THAT ADDRESS AT ALL. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. EVEN ONE RESPONSE -- AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE I FAILED, BUT I DID FAIL SOMEWHERE, PROBABLY ON PINGS. YEP, JUST LIKE YOU, I RECEIVED A REPLY TO THE PING. NOW, THE REASON IS IF A HACKER PINGS YOU AND YOU SAY, "I'M NOT HERE," OR "DOOR'S CLOSED," IT DOESN'T MATTER.

>> Leo: YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY TELLING THE HACKER THAT YOU EXIST. SO WHAT YOU REALLY WANT IS DEAD SILENCE. IT'S LIKE IF YOU'RE A SUBMARINE, YOU WANT TO BE RUNNING SILENT, RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP. NOBODY KNOWS YOU'RE THERE. WELL, IF YOU'RE USING A ROUTER, YOU CAN CONFIGURE THIS IN THE ROUTER, BUT THERE'S A VERY EASY WAY ON WINDOWS X.P. TO DO THIS. ARE YOU USING WINDOWS X.P.

>> Paul: YES, SIR, I AM.

>> Leo: ALL RIGHT, SO YOU'RE GONNA GO TO YOUR INTERNET CONNECTIONS, AND YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE CONNECTION THAT GETS YOU ONLINE. IT MIGHT BE A LAN CONNECTION, IT MIGHT BE DIAL-UP, WHATEVER IT IS. RIGHT-CLICK ON THE CONNECTION. SELECT "PROPERTIES." WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE WINDOWS FIREWALL. SO I'M GONNA CLICK -- NOW, THIS WILL LOOK DIFFERENT IF YOU'RE IN SERVICE PACK 1. THIS IS SERVICE PACK 2. WE'RE GONNA GO TO "ADVANCED, WINDOWS FIREWALL." PRESS THE "SETTINGS." IT'S TURNED ON. THAT'S GOOD. AND THEN I'M GONNA GO TO THE ADVANCED SETTINGS, AND I'M GONNA SEE RIGHT HERE -- AND THIS IS SOMETIMES WHERE PEOPLE GET CONFUSED, WHERE IT SAYS I.C.M.P. THAT'S THE SAME AS "PING." I.C.M.P. PACKETS ARE PING PACKETS. SO YOU GO TO THE I.C.M.P. SETTINGS, AND YOU JUST SAY, MAKE SURE ALL OF THESE ARE UNCHECKED, WHICH MEANS DON'T RESPOND TO PINGS IN ANY WAY. NOW, YOU CAN ALSO DO THIS IN YOUR FIREWALL, YOUR HARDWARE FIREWALL OR ROUTER OR YOUR SOFTWARE FIREWALL, BUT IT'S JUST GONNA LOOK DIFFERENT, BUT THE KEY IS YOU WANT TO REFUSE ALL I.C.M.P. REQUESTS. YOU'RE CURRENTLY RESPONDING TO THEM. AND THERE'S REALLY NO NEED TO RESPOND TO THEM. THEY'RE NOT NEEDED.

>> Paul: THAT'S GREAT.

>> Leo: OKAY? DISABLE THOSE, AND YOU'LL PASS.

>> Paul: I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE HELP.

>> Leo: YOU WILL PASS WITH FLYING COLOURS. YOU'RE WELCOME, PAUL. I THANK YOU FOR CALLING, AND I THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. (Mellow techno music)

>> Leo: ARE YOU LOST IN A SEA OF PORTABLE MEDIA PLAYER CONFUSION?

>> Leo: ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS WANTS YOU TO BUY A NEW iPOD. THE OTHER FRIEND IS SAYING, "HEY, OH, NO, THE CREATIVE ZEN VISIONS WHERE IT'S AT, OR GIVE ME THAT ARCOS JUKEBOX." WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU MAKE YOUR OWN EDUCATED DECISIONS. WHEN IT COMES TIME TO BUY A VIDEO PLAYER, CALL FOR HELP HAS THE ANSWER RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> Dr. Evil: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO MY UNDERGROUND LAIR.

>> Leo: (Imitating Dr. Evil) WHERE WE HAVE LASERS. IF YOU'RE TIRED OF CARRYING YOUR BULKY LAPTOP AROUND TO WATCH VIDEO, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HAND-HELD OPTIONS THAT CAN STORE ALL YOUR MOVIES, MUSIC AND MORE. IN FACT, APPLE REALLY BLEW THE LID OFF THIS CATEGORY WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED THE VIDEO iPOD A FEW MONTHS AGO. ACTUALLY, THERE MAY BE TOO MANY OPTIONS NOW, SO WE'RE HERE TO LEND YOU A HAND. AMBER HAS TESTED TWO OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN PORTABLE MEDIA PLAYERS AND HAS HER REVIEW FOR US. THIS IS THE iPOD WITH VIDEO AND THEN THE CREATIVE ZEN --

>> Amber: ZEN VISION, YEP.

>> Leo: NOW, CREATIVE HAD ONE OF THE EARLY PLAYERS, BUT IT WAS A WINDOWS PORTABLE MEDIA CENTRE DEVICE.

>> Amber: YES, AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE ANYMORE. IT ACTUALLY WORKS WITH WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER 10 NOW.

>> Leo: THEY'VE STOPPED DOING THAT.

>> Amber: THEY'VE STOPPED DOING THAT.

>> Leo: AND I THINK THEY WERE WISE. THIS IS ACTUALLY NICER THAN THE PORTABLE WINDOWS --

>> Amber: IT IS. IT'S A REALLY NICE PLAYER. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY KIND OF COMPARE THE TWO AND SEE WHICH ONE IS THE BEST, DEPENDING ON SOME OF YOUR NEEDS.

>> Leo: ALL RIGHT.

>> Amber: SO LET'S LOOK AT THE iPOD WITH VIDEO FIRST OR VIDEO iPOD.

>> Leo: I'LL PLAY SOME VIDEO FOR US --

>> Amber: YEAH, YOU CAN PLAY SOME VIDEO.

>> Leo: SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY SOMETHING HERE WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.

>> Amber: SO THIS COMES IN TWO VERSIONS. IT COMES IN A 30 GIG AND A 60 GIG, AND YOU'RE HOLDING ON TO THE 60 GIG VERSION.

>> Leo: YOU KNOW, IT'S SO SMALL THAT IT'S AMAZING THAT IT HOLDS 60, BUT THE 30 IS EVEN THINNER THAN THIS.

>> Amber: YEAH, YOU WERE SAYING YOU HAD THE 30.

>> Leo: YEAH, I LIKE THE 30.

>> Amber: YEAH, SO THE 30 IS $299, AND THE 60 GIG IS $399. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT -- YOU'RE WATCHING, YOU'RE WATCHING A -- WHAT IS IT?

>> Leo: "TIKI BAR TV."

>> Amber: "TIKI BAR TV." (Giggling)

>> Leo: I SHOULD BE WATCHING "commandN." IS IT ON HERE?

>> Amber: YEAH, IT'S ON THERE AS WELL. YEAH, THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT VIDEOS ON THERE. BUT ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE iPOD, AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, IS THAT YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT MORE AS, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY IT IS AN iPOD, SO IT'S A MUSIC DEVICE, BUT IT HAPPENS TO ALSO PLAY VIDEO.

>> Amber: SO THIS IS SOMETHING I TRY TO TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME IS IT'S NOT REALLY REPLACING YOUR TV OR THOSE PORTABLE D.V.D. PLAYERS OR YOUR LAPTOP.

>> Leo: NO.

>> Amber: EXACTLY. SO YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT MORE AS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, AN EXTENSION OF YOUR iPOD, SO IT ALLOWS YOU TO WATCH A FORMAT, OBVIOUSLY A VIDEO FORMAT.

>> Leo: MM-HMM.

>> Amber: SO YOU CAN WATCH ANY QUICKTIME MOVIES ON THIS AS WELL AS MPEG-4 VIDEOS.

>> Leo: YOU GET THEM IN HERE THROUGH iTUNES.

>> Amber: YES, YOU GET THEM THROUGH iTUNES, AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY EASY. IT'S THE SAME WAY YOU GET MUSIC FROM THE iTUNES MUSIC STORE ONTO YOUR iPOD, SO IT WORKS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.

>> Leo: NOW I CAN TELL YOU, YOU CAN PUT MOVIES ON HERE, YOUR OWN. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN RIP D.V.D.'S AND SO FORTH WITH A PROGRAM LIKE HANDBRAKE FOR MACINTOSH, BUT IT'S NO-O-OT EXACTLY THE EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD.

>> Amber: IT'S NOT EASIEST THING, AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW LATER IN THE SHOW A FREE DOWNLOAD THAT DOES THAT, SO WE CAN GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT, SO PEOPLE WHO ARE WONDERING HOW TO GET MOVIES ON IT -- YOU'RE ALWAYS ONE STEP AHEAD, LEO!

>> Leo: I'M SORRY.

>> Amber: NO, NO, IT'S OKAY. SO, YEAH, YOU CAN GET VIDEOS ON THIS VIA iTUNES MUSIC STORE.

>> Leo: THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY.

>> Amber: THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY. SOME OF THEM ARE FREE, LIKE VIDEO PODCASTS.

>> Amber: THOSE ARE FREE RIGHT NOW.

>> Leo: LIKE "commandN?

>> Amber: YES, IT'S COMPLETELY FREE. BUT YOU CAN ALSO BUY VIDEOS IF YOU'RE LIVING IN THE U.S. FROM THE iTUNES MUSIC STORE. THEY HAVE PIXAR SHORT FILMS, DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES...

>> Leo: YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN AUSTRALIA AND CANADA?

>> Amber: I DON'T THINK SO. IN CANADA, DEFINITELY NOT.

>> Leo: ONLY THE U.S.?

>> Amber: ONLY THE U.S. RIGHT NOW. I KNOW. SO I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR SOMEONE IN THE U.S. TO LEND ME THEIR, UH...

>> Leo: I HAVE DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES. I'LL BRING IT IN FOR YOU.

>> Amber: (Giggling) PERFECT! SO THAT'S HOW YOU GET VIDEO THERE. SO I KNOW YOU'VE BOUGHT THE WHOLE SEASON OF DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES.

>> Leo: (Laughing) HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?

>> Amber: I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY! I DIDN'T MEAN TO EMBARRASS YOU!

>> Leo: HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? I'M EMBARRASSED!

>> Amber: I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

>> Leo: AND LOST.

>> Amber: AND LOST. LOST IS A GREAT SHOW.

>> Leo: I HAVEN'T SEEN EITHER, SO, YOU KNOW.

>> Amber: I MEAN THIS IS A REALLY EASY DEVICE FOR ANYONE WHO IS USED TO USING THE iPOD. IT'S KIND OF A NO-BRAINER. IF YOU'RE GONNA UPGRADE YOUR iPOD, THIS IS THE FIFTH GENERATION.

>> Leo: WELL, THAT'S THE KEY. IF YOU'RE BUYING AN iPOD FOR MUSIC, YOU CAN BUY ONE OF THESE, AND YOU'LL HAVE VIDEO AS, YOU KNOW, AN ADD-ON.

>> Amber: AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE iPODS WILL EVENTUALLY -- ALL OF THE NEW iPODS WILL BE VIDEO COMPATIBLE.

>> Leo: THEY ALL ARE, YEAH.

>> Amber: YES.

>> Leo: IN FACT, THEY DIDN'T EVEN RAISE THE PRICE. WHAT? IT'S $299 FOR THE 30 GIGS?

>> Amber: YEAH, AND $399 FOR THE 60 GIG.

>> Leo: SO THAT'S THE SAME AS IT WAS WITHOUT VIDEO.

>> Amber: EXACTLY THE SAME. SO NOW WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE CREATIVE ZEN VISION.

>> Leo: WELL, YOU'LL SEE IMMEDIATELY ONE THING, THE SCREEN.

>> Amber: SCREEN SIZE. SO WE'VE GONE HERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE FROM THE iPOD WITH VIDEO, WHICH IS A 2.5 INCH SCREEN SIZE TO THE CREATIVE ZEN VISION, WHICH IS 3.7 INCHES AS FAR AS THE SCREEN SIZE. NOW, THIS PLAYS A LOT OF DIFFERENT FILE FORMATS. THE ONE THING THE VISION DOESN'T DO IS IT DOESN'T PLAY QUICKTIME FILES.

>> Leo: MOSTLY WINDOWS MEDIA.

>> Amber: YEAH, MOSTLY WINDOWS MEDIA.

>> Leo: BUT IT WILL ALSO DO -- IT WILL DO DIDIX?

>> Amber: MPEG-4, DIDIX.

>> Leo: MPEG-4?

>> Amber: YEAH, SO IT PLAYS A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT FORMATS, BUT AGAIN, IT DOESN'T PLAY ANY QUICKTIME FORMATS RIGHT NOW.

>> Leo: IT'S KIND OF DARK. IS THERE A WAY TO GET IT BRIGHTER?

>> Amber: I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN --

>> Leo: OH, THERE. I WAS JUST TILTING IT WRONG.

>> Amber: YEAH, YOU WERE JUST TILTING IT WRONG. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WAY I'VE KIND OF DESCRIBED IT TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY TALK TO ME ABOUT GETTING A VIDEO PLAYER IS THAT IF YOU WANT SOMETHING PRIMARILY FOR VIDEO, THE CREATIVE ZEN VISION IS A REALLY GOOD DEVICE, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, THE VIEWING SPACE IS MUCH LARGER, SO IT WORKS REALLY WELL.

>> Leo: AND IT'S WIDESCREEN.

>> Amber: IT'S WIDESCREEN. AND ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE WATCHING VIDEOS ON ANY OF THESE PORTABLE MEDIA PLAYERS IS THEY SUCK YOUR BATTERY LIFE OUT A LOT.

>> Leo: YES, YES.

>> Amber: AND THE NEAT THING ABOUT THE CREATIVE ZEN VISION IS THE BATTERY ACTUALLY SLIPS RIGHT OFF THE BACK SO YOU CAN REPLACE IT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THOSE BATTERY ISSUES YOU DEAL WITH WITH THE iPOD.

>> Leo: SO YOU CAN HAVE TWO.

>> Amber: YOU CAN HAVE TWO. SO YOU CAN HAVE AN EXTRA ONE. IT JUST SLIDES RIGHT OFF THE BACK.

>> Leo: THAT'S A PROBLEM, BECAUSE THE iPOD, AFTER A COUPLE OF HOURS, THAT'S IT.

>> Amber: THAT'S IT.

>> Leo: TWO OR THREE HOURS, AND THAT'S ALL YOU CAN WATCH.

>> Amber: YEAH, THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GONNA GET. I MEAN THE 60 GIG IS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT AS FAR AS THE 30 GIG, YEAH.

>> Leo: WELL, THEY'RE SO SMALL. THAT'S WHY.

>> Amber: THEY'RE SO SMALL.

>> Leo: WHEN THEY GET THIS BIG, YOU CAN PUT MUCH MORE BATTERY IN THERE.

>> Amber: OH, FOR SURE. SO THIS IS A REALLY GOOD DEVICE, AGAIN, FOR ANYONE WHO PRIMARILY -- YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'RE COMMUTING AND YOU WANT TO WATCH A LOT OF VIDEOS. YOU'RE TRAVELLING AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MORE INTERESTED IN THE VIDEO COMPONENT OF IT. BUT FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO'S USED TO USING iTUNES AND USED TO USING THE MUSIC STORE, IT'S JUST A NATURAL THING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO BUY OBVIOUSLY THE iPOD WITH VIDEO.

>> Leo: I'VE BEEN WATCHING VIDEO ON MY PALM. STEVE GIBSON SHOWED ME HOW TO DO THAT, AND THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. I HAVE ALL OF THE "SERENITY" SERIES ON MY PALM.

>> Amber: OH, COOL!

>> Leo: AND THAT'S KIND OF FUN.

>> Amber: YEAH, IT'S KIND OF FUN.

>> Leo: BUT THE SAME THING WITH BATTERY LIFE. I MEAN YOU JUST -- YOU KNOW, HE HAS ONE THAT PLAYS IT OFF THE LITTLE CHIPS, BUT I'VE BEEN PLAYING IT OFF A HARD DRIVE, AND THAT'S WHAT EATS THE BATTERY LIFE IS THE HARD DRIVES.

>> Amber: IT JUST KILLS IT. I TOOK THIS ON THE FLIGHT RECENTLY, THE iPOD WITH VIDEO, AND YOU KNOW, THE BATTERY LIFE ISN'T THAT LONG.

>> Leo: IT'S FRUSTRATING IF YOU'RE HALFWAY THROUGH DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES, AND YOU WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED, AND IT DIES!

>> Amber: YEAH. LEO, ONE THING I DO LIKE ABOUT THESE, THOUGH, ON THE PLANES, I USED TO WATCH MOVIES ON MY LAPTOP ALL THE TIME, AND THEN WHEN THERE'S TURBULENCE, YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR LAPTOP AWAY.

>> Leo: YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THESE AWAY.

>> Amber: YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THESE AWAY. THAT'S MY FAVOURITE THING ABOUT THEM FOR TRAVELLING.

>> Leo: NOW, DO YOU FIND THE SCREEN IS BIG ENOUGH, OR ARE YOU ALWAYS GOING LIKE THIS?

>> Amber: IT'S A REALLY -- I FIND THE iPOD WITH VIDEO IS A REALLY CRISP PICTURE.

>> Leo: IT IS A GOOD PICTURE.

>> Amber: YEAH, IT'S A REALLY GOOD PICTURE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU GET THE VIDEOS THAT ARE H264.

>> Leo: RIGHT.

>> Amber: YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE QUALITY OF THOSE IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD. SO I HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT, AND AGAIN, I LIKE THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, I'VE USED AN iPOD FOR A LONG TIME, SO I LIKE THE IDEA THAT I DON'T HAVE TO RELEARN A NEW SORT OF OPERATING SYSTEM AND I CAN USE IT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS. SOME PEOPLE LIKE THE VISION, BUT I'M A BIG FAN OF THE iPOD WITH VIDEO.

>> Leo: THE VISION IS ALSO $399, BUT ONLY FOR 30 GIGS. YOU GET A LITTLE BIT LESS SPACE FOR THAT PRICE.

>> Amber: YEAH, YOU ONLY GET 30 GIGS, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.

>> Leo: FOR MORE ABOUT MEDIA PLAYERS, VISIT callforhelptv.com. LET'S SAY HI TO OUR GOOD FOLKS BEHIND THE SCENES AS WE TAKE A BREAK. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK IN JUST A MINUTE. (Quiet techno music) (Voices overlapping)

>> YEAH, KEEP DOING THAT. SEVEN --

>> ZOOMING OUT, KEEP DOING THAT.

>> SIX, FIVE, FOUR, THREE, TWO, ONE.

>> Amber: WELCOME BACK TO CALL FOR HELP. TIME FOR OUR MESSENGER TIP OF THE DAY. HERE'S HOW YOU CAN VIEW A PROFILE OF ONE OF YOUR CONTACTS IN MESSENGER. RIGHT-CLICK ON THE CONTACT, CLICK "VIEW PROFILE." THIS IS callforhelptv@hotmail.com. AND WE SEE WE HAVE A PICTURE HERE OF LEO AND SOME OTHER INFORMATION.

>> Leo: (Chuckles)

>> Amber: (Giggling)

>> Leo: COOL!

>> Amber: AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER CALLER.

>> Amber: WE HAVE TYLER ON THE WEBCAM FROM NIAGARA FALLS, ONTARIO.

>> Leo: HI, TYLER. HOW ARE YOU?

>> Tyler: HEY, GUYS! HOW'S IT GOIN'?

>> Leo: IT'S GOIN' GREAT!

>> Tyler: TO BE HONEST, I WANT TO SAY THAT "TWIT" IS AWESOME.

>> Leo: THANK YOU!

>> Amber: (Giggling)

>> Tyler: AND, AMBER?

>> Amber: YEAH?

>> Tyler: IF YOU'D LIKE THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING OUT WITH ME, YOU GUYS HAVE GOT MY E-MAIL.

>> Leo: (Laughing)

>> Amber: (Giggling) OKAY!

>> Leo: NO, AMBER DOESN'T ACCEPT ANY -- I'LL BE -- I'LL BE YOUR BOOKING AGENT. AMBER DOESN'T ACCEPT ANY OFFERS THAT DON'T INCLUDE A MILLION DOLLARS IN CASH.

>> Amber: YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH LEO. HE'S MY DATING AGENT.

>> Leo: AND I TAKE THE MONEY. (All laughing)

>> Leo: BUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S A CUTE GUY, AMBER.

>> Amber: HE'S KIND OF CUTE.

>> Leo: I JUST WANT TO POINT IT OUT, YOU KNOW.

>> Amber: I DON'T KNOW, TYLER. (Giggling)

>> Leo: TYLER, I ADMIRE YOUR GUMPTION. (Tyler and Amber laughing)

>> Leo: I ADMIRE YOUR GUMPTION. WHAT CAN I -- I'M GLAD YOU LIKE "TWIT," AND I'M SURE YOU WATCH "commandN" RELIGIOUSLY, WHICH IS AMBER'S PODCAST.

>> Tyler: UH...

>> Leo: WELL, NOW, SEE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A DATE IF YOU DON'T SAY YES.

>> Amber: DON'T SAY NO, DON'T SAY NO! (Amber and Tyler laughing)

>> Tyler: ALL RIGHT, I DO.

>> Leo: YEAH, HE'S LYING. I CAN TELL. WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU, TYLER?

>> Tyler: I'M LOOKING FOR A CATCHER CARD.

>> Leo: YES!

>> Tyler: AND I'M LOOKING FOR ONE THAT CAN DECODE H.D. SIGNALS.

>> Leo: YEAH?

>> Tyler: THAT IGNORES MACRO.

>> Leo: OKAY.

>> Tyler: AND THAT... I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. I DON'T NEED DUAL TUNER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

>> Leo: BUT YOU WANT ONE THAT WON'T BE STYMIED BY MACRO VISION COPY PROTECTION?

>> Tyler: YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo: YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TRICKIER, YOU KNOW. IN FACT, AT LEAST IN THE U.S., ALL THE MOVIE COMPANIES ARE TRYING TO FORCE CONGRESS TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY DEVICE THAT CAN RECEIVE DIGITAL TELEVISION HAS COPY PROTECTION BUILT IN. THIS IS CALLED THE SO-CALLED BROADCAST FLAG. AND I HAVE A FEELING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING ANY H.D. CARD THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT CONTENT PROTECTION, BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO SCARY AND DANGEROUS TO RELEASE IT. THE ONE THAT MOST PEOPLE SEEM TO USE IS THIS ONE CALLED "MY H.D." THIS IS VERY POPULAR.

>> Leo: ONE OF THE REASONS PEOPLE LIKE IT, IT WORKS WITH Q.A.M. YOU CAN DO IT OVER THE AIR.

>> Tyler: WILL IT WORK WITH SOMETHING LIKE DSCALER?

>> Leo: ACTUALLY, THEY HAVE TWO MODELS. ONE DOES AND ONE DOESN'T. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED DSCALER IF YOU'RE JUST WATCHING AN H.D. SIGNAL. I KNOW YOU DON'T NEED A DSCALER.

>> Leo: A DSCALER IS AN UNINTERLACER, AND OF COURSE, YOUR H.D. SIGNAL, EVEN IF IT'S INTERLACED, IS STILL HIGHER RESOLUTION. I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. OR JUST WATCH 720P.

>> Tyler: BUT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CAPTURE AN H.D., RIGHT?

>> Leo: SURE!

>> Tyler: BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE IT, TOO.

>> Leo: YOU COULD PROBABLY CAPTURE IT, YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T SEE WHY YOU WOULDN'T. IT WOULD TAKE UP A LOT OF HARDWARE SPACE. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ONE THAT CAN HANDLE CAPTURE. THIS IS --

>> Tyler: I'M LOOKING AT STRIPING MY DRIVES ACTUALLY.

>> Leo: YEAH, WELL, THERE YOU GO. IF YOU HAVE FAST DRIVES AND YOU -- PROBABLY YOU DON'T NEED TO STRIPE THEM. THE BANDWIDTH'S NOT THAT HEAVY.

>> Tyler: NO.

>> Leo: AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WE JUST GOT -- I HAVEN'T TRIED IT -- FROM A.D.S. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF COMPANIES DOING THESE NOW. THIS IS INSTANT H.D.T.V. "RECEIVE FREE OVER THE AIR H.D.T.V. BROADCASTS ON YOUR P.C.," IT SAYS. SO YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF THEM. THE ONE THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE SEEN -- AND I SENT A NOTE, BY THE WAY, TO MY BUDDY ON "TWIT," ROBERT HERON, BECAUSE HE'S THE H.D.T.V. EXPERT, AND HE HASN'T RESPONDED BACK, BUT IF HE DOES, I'LL PUT HIS ANSWER IN THE SHOW NOTES ON WHAT HE RECOMMENDS, BECAUSE HE'S TRIED THESE ALL, AND THE TRUTH IS, I HAVEN'T. BUT I KNOW HE'S LOOKED AT QUITE A FEW, AND HE HAS TOLD ME THAT THIS IS THE NEXT BIG THING IS THESE -- BASICALLY THESE ARE P.C. CARDS, P.C.I. CARDS THAT GO INTO YOUR COMPUTER AND ADD -- THEY'RE A TV TUNER, BUT INSTEAD OF JUST TUNING IN REGULAR TV, THEY CAN ALSO TUNE IN NOW THESE NEW H.D.T.V. SIGNALS. I TAKE IT YOU WANT IT OVER THE AIR, RIGHT?

>> Tyler: YEAH, LIKE I'M RUNNING DIGITAL CABLE NOW. WOULD IT WORK WITH THAT?

>> Leo: AH, NOW THAT'S A DIFFERENT MATTER.

>> Tyler: (Chuckling) DO I NEED AN H.D. RECEIVER FOR IT?

>> Leo: YEAH, THE PROBLEM WITH DIGITAL CABLE IS YOU CAN'T GET A DIGITAL SIGNAL OUT OF THAT CABLE BOX. YOU CAN ONLY GET ANALOG OUT OF THAT CABLE BOX FOR THIS COPY PROTECTION REASON, RIGHT? SO THE CABLE BOX IS TAKING A DIGITAL H.D. SIGNAL AND TURNING IT INTO ANALOG, MAYBE A COMPONENT -- YOU KNOW, IF IT'S D.V.I. OR H.D.M.I., THEN YOU COULD -- YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET IT INTO THE COMPUTER, BUT YOU COULD DISPLAY IT ON YOUR COMPUTER MONITOR. THAT'S A DIFFERENT MATTER. YOU DON'T NEED A TUNER CARD. YOU ALREADY HAVE A TUNER. THE PROBLEM IS THAT TUNER IS LIMITING WHAT YOU CAN DO BECAUSE OF COPY PROTECTION ISSUES.

>> Tyler: OKAY.

>> Leo: MOVIE COMPANIES GO CRAZY WITH THE IDEA OF PUTTING OUT H.D. CONTENT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY GOOD-LOOKING! YOU COULD MAKE A COPY OF THAT AND SELL IT, AND YOU KNOW, IT'D BE AS GOOD AS THE ORIGINAL.

>> Tyler: YEAH.

>> Leo: AND THAT SCARES THE WILLIES OUT OF THEM. SO ALMOST ALL OF THIS STUFF, THOSE CABLE BOXES, FORGET IT. YOU'LL NEVER GET ANYTHING OUT OF THERE. THAT'S GONNA BE AN ANALOG SIGNAL BY THE TIME YOU GET IT.

>> Tyler: BUT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE AIR THEN?

>> Leo: YOU CAN TAKE IT OUT OF THE AIR WITH THESE CARDS, YEAH.

>> Tyler: OKAY.

>> Leo: ALL RIGHT?

>> Tyler: YEP.

>> Leo: HEY, THANKS, TYLER.

>> Tyler: YEAH, THANKS A LOT.

>> Leo: ALL RIGHT, TAKE CARE. AS LONG AS YOU HAVE -- IF YOU CAN GET GOOD TV RECEPTION WITH YOUR LOCAL CHANNELS, MOST OF THEM ARE DOING H.D. NOW, AND CERTAINLY IN THE STATES, EVERYBODY WILL BE DOING H.D... THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS FOR SURE. (Funky techno music)

>> Leo: HEY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO FILL UP YOUR iPOD WITH YOUR FAVOURITE MOVIES OR VIDEOS -- WE JUST SHOWED YOU HOW COOL THIS iPOD WITH VIDEO IS -- WELL, DON'T GO ANYWHERE. FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MINUTES, WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU A FREE PROGRAM THAT MAKES IT VERY EASY TO GET QUICKTIME MOVIES ONTO iPOD WITH iPOD-FRIENDLY FLICKS. AMBER'S HERE WITH THE LATEST. NOW, IF YOU PAY 30 BUCKS, YOU CAN GET QUICKTIME PRO...

>> Amber: YES.

>> Leo: THAT WILL MAKE iPOD MOVIES, BUT IT'S SLOW.

>> Amber: SLOW.

>> Leo: AND THEY'RE GIANT!

>> Amber: THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY BIG.

>> Leo: THERE'S A BETTER WAY.

>> Amber: YEAH, THERE IS A BETTER WAY. THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT HANDBRAKE BEFORE.

>> Leo: HANDBRAKE, THAT'S FOR CONVERTING COMMERCIAL MOVIES.

>> Amber: YEAH.

>> Leo: BUT IT DOES A GOOD JOB.

>> Amber: IT DOES A GOOD JOB. BUT IF YOU WANT TO CONVERT SORT OF SMALLER FILE SIZES, ANYTHING THAT'S IN QUICKTIME FORMAT --

>> Leo: MM-HMM, MM-HMM.

>> Amber: SO SAY IF YOU'VE DOWNLOADED, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S VIDEO SHOW ON THE WEB OR --

>> Leo: YOU CAN'T JUST MOVE THOSE OVER TO THE iPOD. YOU HAVE TO BE IN A VERY SPECIFIC FORMAT.

>> Amber: YOU HAVE TO BE IN A VERY SPECIFIC FORMAT, SO IT HAS TO BE -- AS FAR AS RESOLUTION, IT'S 320 BY 240.

>> Leo: MM-HMM.

>> Amber: SO THIS IS A REALLY COOL PROGRAM CALLED "MOVIES TO GO," AND IT'S FOR THE iPOD OBVIOUSLY TO MAKE THEM iPOD COMPATIBLE. IT'S COMPLETELY FREE, AND IT'S BY THIS COMPANY CALLED DIGIGAMI. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM.

>> Leo: UH-UH, UH-UH.

>> Amber: AND IT'S SUPER EASY TO USE. SO WE'LL SHOW YOU HERE HOW IT WORKS. IT'S A FREE DOWNLOAD, AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY, "OPEN MOVIE."

>> Leo: I LIKE THIS!

>> Amber: AND I'VE CHOSEN "HAK.5," WHICH IS A VIDEO SHOW.

>> Leo: RIGHT.

>> Amber: IF I WANT TO WATCH THIS ON MY NEW iPOD WITH VIDEO, THEN I CAN JUST CLICK ON THAT, AND THEN I CLICK "OPEN," AND THEN I HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE. SO I CAN HAVE -- YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE ALL MPEG-4 AND H264, SO I CAN CHOOSE, YOU KNOW, HIGH-QUALITY H264 --

>> Leo: BUT THESE WILL ALL WORK ON THE iPOD?

>> Amber: THESE WILL ALL WORK ON THE iPOD.

>> Amber: BUT THIS IS NICE BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM.

>> Leo: MM-HMM.

>> Amber: SO SAY IF I WANT TO CHOOSE A FAST, SMALLER FILE, AND THIS FIGHTS THAT PROBLEM YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH HANDBRAKE --

>> Leo: MM-HMM.

>> Amber: IS THAT I CAN CLICK THIS, AND THEN ALL I HAVE TO DO IS CLICK ON "CONVERT TO iPOD VIDEO," AND THEN I CAN CHANGE THE FILE NAME, BUT WE'LL JUST KEEP IT AS IT IS AND SAVE, AND WE'LL JUST REPLACE THAT. AND THEN WHAT IT'S DOING RIGHT NOW IN THE BACKGROUND IS IT'S CONVERTING THAT QUICKTIME VIDEO SO THAT I'M ABLE TO VIEW IT ON MY iPOD.

>> Leo: SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR QUICKTIME PRO. YOU CAN JUST USE THAT PROGRAM.

>> Amber: YOU CAN JUST USE THAT PROGRAM.

>> Amber: YOU HAVE TO HAVE iTUNES 6 FOR IT TO WORK.

>> Leo: OKAY.

>> Amber: BUT IT WORKS REALLY, REALLY WELL. I'VE DONE IT, AND I'VE TESTED IT OUT, AND IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. SO IT'S --

>> Leo: THE NAME?

>> Amber: FIRST IT WAS CALLED "MOVIES TO GO," AND THEY CHANGED THE TITLE TO "MOVIES FOR MY POD," SO I'LL PUT A LINK ON callforhelptv.com. SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE RIDING, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE WAVE OF THE iPOD WITH VIDEO.

>> Leo: HEY, WHO ISN'T?

>> Amber: (Giggling)

>> Leo: I KNOW I AM.

>> Amber: I AM, TOO. (Funky techno music)

>> Leo: COMING UP, DO YOU FIND NORMAL KEYBOARDS A PAIN TO USE?

>> Leo: DOES IT SEEM LIKE THEY'RE BUILT JUST TO ANNOY YOU? MIKE IS HERE WITH THREE DIFFERENT KEYBOARDS THAT MIGHT HELP YOUR HANDS STAY HAPPY ALL DAY LONG. (Chuckling) I KNOW MIKEY HAS HAPPY HANDS... WELL, AT LEAST ONE OF THEM. BEFORE WE TAKE OFF FOR A QUICK BREAK, LET'S GIVE YOU ANOTHER CHANCE TO ANSWER OUR NEXXTECH QUIZ OF THE DAY! WHICH METALLICA SONG STARTED THE NAPSTER CONTROVERSY IN THE YEAR 2000? "I DISAPPEAR," "ENTER SANDMAN," "SAD BUT TRUE," OR "ONE DOWNLOAD TOO MANY?" GO TO THE WEBSITE AND GIVE US THE ANSWER. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT WHEN CALL FOR HELP CONTINUES.

>> Leo: (Sings Metallica lyrics) WHICH METALLICA SONG STARTED THE NAPSTER CONTROVERSY IN 2000? I'M GONNA THINK "ENTER SANDMAN," I WOULD GUESS. THAT WAS THEIR BIGGEST HIT, WASN'T IT? THE ANSWER IS... "I DISAPPEAR... I DISAPPEAR."

>> Leo: IT STARTED IT BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE DOWNLOADED IT, LARS ULRICH, THE DRUMMER, GOT ALL UPSET. HE WENT TO COURT, SUED NAPSTER. THEY ACTUALLY HAD A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAD STOLEN THEIR MUSIC ON NAPSTER, AND THEY SUCCESSFULLY PURSUED A CASE, SO MUCH SO THAT NAPSTER WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. IT'S BACK, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT COMPANY THAT BOUGHT THE NAME. AND THERE'S THE STORY, THE SAD STORY OF NAPSTER IN A NUTSHELL. "I DISAPPEAR" IS KIND OF APPROPRIATE. IT DID. DO YOU WORK IN A DARK ROOM, FIGHTING OFF MERCENARIES WHILE PLAYING "FAR CRY?" I KNOW I DO. HA-HA! MAYBE YOU HAVE LIMITED MOBILITY IN ONE OF YOUR HANDS, OR YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT HOLDING YOUR HANDS IN AN UNNATURAL POSITION ALL DAY LONG. WHEN IT COMES TO KEYBOARDS, THERE ARE REALLY LOTS OF OPTIONS TO CUSTOMIZE THEM TO YOUR NEEDS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE SAME OLD 19th CENTURY KEYBOARD YOUR GRANDPA USED. MIKE LAZAZZERA IS HERE TO SHOW US SOME ALTERNATIVES TO THE TYPICAL KEYBOARDS YOU MIGHT SEE IN THE STORE OR THE ONE THAT CAME WITH YOUR COMPUTER.

>> Mike: AND THE KEYBOARDS AND MICE ARE TWO OF THE ITEMS THAT I THINK PEOPLE MOST NEGLECT ON THEIR COMPUTER SYSTEMS. AND YET YOU USE IT SO MUCH, AND YOU REALLY CAN HURT YOURSELF.

>> Mike: YOU CAN, AND YOU KNOW, WITH CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME, YOU'VE SEEN LOTS OF PEOPLE, OFFICE WORKERS, COMING OUT WITH ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS NOW, PEOPLE WHO DO REPETITIVE ACTIONS. AND SO THESE, TWO OF THE KEYBOARDS ARE KIND OF HELPFUL IN TERMS OF THAT, AND ONE OF THEM'S KIND OF MORE OF A VANITY ONE, BUT ANYHOW, IT'S --

>> Leo: A VANITY ONE?

>> Mike: YES, IT'S MORE FOR LOOKS THAN ANYTHING ELSE. (Squealing series of beeps)

>> Woman: THE FINGERS YOU HAVE USED ARE TOO FAT. PLEASE MASH THE KEYPAD WITH YOUR PALM NOW.

>> Leo: THANK YOU.

>> Mike: (Giggling)

>> Leo: SO WHERE SHALL WE START?

>> Mike: LET'S START WITH THIS.

>> Leo: I AM LIKING THIS KEYBOARD, I MUST SAY.

>> Leo: THIS IS MICROSOFT?

>> Mike: THIS IS A MICROSOFT ERGONOMIC KEYBOARD 4000.

>> Leo: IT HAS A PADDED WRIST PAD.

>> Mike: MM-HMM.

>> Leo: WHICH IS RAISED QUITE A BIT.

>> Mike: YOU CAN TAKE IT OFF, TOO, AS WELL IF YOU WANT TO JUST DROP IT DOWN TO A NORMAL KEYBOARD HEIGHT.

>> Leo: MM-HMM.

>> Mike: IT'S REALLY NICE. I GAVE THIS TO OUR PRODUCER, OUR ASSOCIATE PRODUCER, MATT HARRIS, AND LET HIM PLAY WITH IT FOR A COUPLE DAYS, AND HE REALLY LIKED IT. HE REALIZED --

>> Leo: IT'S ONE OF THOSE SPLIT KEYBOARDS SO THAT -- THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO GET YOUR WRISTS IN A NATURAL POSITION.

>> Mike: EXACTLY, AND WHEN YOU PUT YOUR HANDS ACTUALLY ON THIS, LIKE IF YOU GO TO A STORE AND ACTUALLY FEEL YOUR HANDS, IT FEELS NICE.

>> Leo: IT FEELS BETTER.

>> Mike: AND --

>> Leo: LET ME SHOW YOU. THIS IS HOW YOU TYPE. AND YOUR HANDS ARE KIND OF TILTED, AND THE WRISTS ARE RAISED. IT DOES, IT ACTUALLY FEELS BETTER.

>> Mike: THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THAT YOU CAN'T CHEAT ON THIS ONE IN TERMS OF PEEK AND POKING BECAUSE IT'S MUCH HARDER TO PEEK AND POKE, AND SO YOU KIND OF ALMOST HAVE TO LEARN THE KEYS --

>> Leo: YOU WANT TO BE A TOUCH TYPIST IF YOU'RE GONNA USE THIS ONE.

>> Mike: YEAH, YEAH.

>> Leo: ALSO, LARGER KEYS FOR THE "T" AND THE "N." I MEAN IT'S KIND OF ODD, BUT IT SEEMS TO WORK. A LOT OF EXTRA BUTTONS FOR FUNCTIONALITY.

>> Mike: FOR FUNCTIONALITY.

>> Leo: INCLUDING THIS ZOOM. WHAT IS THIS?

>> Mike: YOU CAN ZOOM INTO YOUR SCREEN, GET CLOSER AND FARTHER AWAY WITH THE MICROSOFT INTEL POINT --

>> Leo: AND IT HAS A "BACK" AND "NEXT" FOR SURFING.

>> Mike: EXACTLY. AND THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER, YOU KNOW --

>> Leo: WEB, MAIL --

>> Mike: I PERSONALLY WOULD NEVER USE THEM, QUITE FRANKLY, BUT THEY'RE NICE TO HAVE THERE IF YOU'RE THE KIND OF PERSON WHO LIKES TO HIT THAT BUTTON AND, YOU KNOW, AUTOMATICALLY LAUNCH, YOU KNOW.

>> Leo: HOW MUCH IS THAT?

>> Mike: THIS RETAILS FOR ABOUT $60 U.S., WHICH IS PRETTY CHEAP.

>> Leo: THAT'S THE LEAST EXPENSIVE ONE WE'VE GOT HERE.

>> Mike: THAT'S THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OF ALL THE ONES THAT WE HAVE HERE.

>> Leo: OKAY. WHAT DO THEY CALL THIS? THE NATURAL KEYBOARD?

>> Mike: THIS IS THE NATURAL ERGONOMIC KEYBOARD 4000, AND IT'S THE NEWEST ONE THAT JUST CAME OUT.

>> Leo: OOH, IT'S THE 4000 MODEL.

>> Mike: YEAH.

>> Leo: ALL RIGHT, WHAT ELSE?

>> Mike: SO THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE IS THE VANITY ONE. THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS -- IT'S MORE FOR THE GAMERS OUT THERE, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE -- EVEN, I WAS THINKING, AN EDIT SUITE.

>> Leo: BECAUSE IT'S SO PURDY.

>> Mike: IN DOING EDITS. (Both talking at once)

>> Mike: YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IN THE LIGHT, BUT I'M GONNA ASK DOUG, OUR LIGHTING DUDE, TO DROP THE LIGHTS A LITTLE BIT FOR A SECOND. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS IS ILLUMINATED FROM BEHIND.

>> Leo: OOH!

>> Mike: IT'S GOT SOFT BLUE ILLUMINATION --

>> Leo: THIS IS REALLY FOR GAMERS WHO PLAY IN THE DARK.

>> Mike: THIS IS FOR GAMERS. AND I WAS THINKING, THOUGH, VIDEO EDITORS, TOO, PEOPLE WHO ARE EDITING STUFF IN DARKER ROOMS.

>> Leo: YEAH.

>> Mike: IT'S REALLY NICE. THE ONE THING ABOUT THIS KEYBOARD WHICH I REALLY LIKED WAS THE KEYS ARE MUCH LIKE LAPTOP KEYS IN TERMS OF THEY TRAVEL VERY SHORT DISTANCES IN TERMS OF OTHER KEYBOARDS USED.

>> Leo: DO YOU LIKE THAT?

>> Mike: I LIKE THAT A LOT BECAUSE I'M USED TO USING AN iBOOK, AND I'M USED TO USING MY DELL LAPTOP, SO IT'S VERY NICE, AND I'M VERY USED TO VERY SHORT KEYSTROKES.

>> Leo: SEE, IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE THIS IS A SOFT SHORT KEYSTROKE KEYBOARD, AND I HAVE A LONG-TRAVEL CLICKETY-CLICK LOUD KEYBOARD BECAUSE I PREFER THOSE ONES.

>> Mike: AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO LIKE EITHER WAY, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN --

>> Leo: WE'RE OUT OF TIME, BUT JUST REAL QUICKLY, WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS FROM FROG?

>> Mike: THIS IS THE iFROG FROM FROGPAD.

>> Leo: FROGPAD.

>> Mike: AND IT ALLOWS YOU -- YOU CAN BUY RIGHT OR LEFT VERSIONS OF IT, AND IT'S DESIGNED FOR --

>> Leo: SO YOU PRESS THE SHIFT KEY TO DO ONE SIDE OF THE ALPHABET AND --

>> Mike: EXACTLY. AND IT ALLOWS IT SO IF YOU HAVE LIMITED MOBILITY OR PERHAPS --

>> Leo: OR ONLY ONE HAND.

>> Mike: OR ONE HAND OR PERHAPS YOU'RE USING THE JOYSTICK TO PLAY GAMES OR YOU'RE USING MAYBE A TABLET MAYBE EVEN, TOO, YOU CAN USE THAT AS A KEYBOARD AS WELL, AND IT'S VERY EASY TO USE.

>> Leo: HOW MUCH IS THAT?

>> Mike: THEY RETAIL BETWEEN THE WIRED AND THE WIRELESS BETWEEN $129 AND $149.

>> Leo: HOW MUCH WAS THE LIGHT-UP KEYBOARD, THE AURAVISION?

>> Mike: THE LIGHT-UP ONE WAS ABOUT $80 U.S., YEAH.

>> Leo: WELL, BUT YOU CAN GET A KEYBOARD FOR FIVE BUCKS, SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

>> Mike: YEAH.

>> Leo: YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PAYING FOR EXTRA FEATURES LIKE THIS.

>> Mike: EXACTLY.

>> Leo: A NICE LITTLE ROUNDUP. I LIKE THESE.

>> Leo: TO CHECK OUT WHAT MIKE THOUGHT OF THESE KEYBOARDS AND FIND OUT HOW TO GET YOUR HANDS ON ONE LITERALLY, VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT callforhelptv.com. E-MAIL MIKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS BY SENDING HIM A NOTE TO...

>> Mike: mikey@callforhelptv.com!

>> Leo: M-I-K-E-Y. OUR SHOW'S ALMOST DONE. THERE'S ONE LAST SEGMENT TO GO! STAY WITH US. (Theme plays: Funky instrumental music)

>> Amber: (Giggles)

>> Leo: WELCOME BACK TO CALL FOR HELP. IF YOU WANT TO BE ON THE SHOW, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU WITH US. ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND CLICK THE LINK THAT SAYS "ASK A QUESTION" AND FILL OUT THAT FORM. MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE YOUR PHONE NUMBER, THE ONE WE CAN BEST REACH YOU. IF YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH YOUR PERSONAL CONFUSER...

>> Amber: DON'T WHINE.

>> Leo: DON'T MOAN.

>> Amber: DON'T YELP.

>> Leo: WHAT DO YOU DO?

>> Both: CALL FOR HELP!

>> Leo: (Laughing) WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. COME RIGHT BACK HERE NOW, YOU HEAR? BYE-BYE.

>> Amber: (Giggling) (Theme plays: Funky instrumental music) (Indiscernible conversation)

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