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>>Amber MacArthur: HOW TO TATTOO YOUR iPOD, TODAY ON CALL FOR HELP.

>>I HOPE THESE PEOPLE CAN HELP ME WITH MY COMPUTER. OH! (Gasping) NO!

>>A TECHNICIAN WILL BE WITH YOU IN FOUR HOURS.

>>FOUR HOURS?!

>>YOU CAN UPGRADE FOR JUST $5,000.

>>WHAT?!

>>THE UNIVERSAL SERIAL CONFIG BOARD SHOULD BE SET TO I.D.6.

>>I NEED THAT IN PLAIN ENGLISH. HELP!

>>Leo Laporte: LEO LAPORTE AT CALL FOR HELP. MAY I HELP YOU?

>>Leo Laporte: HEYA, FRIENDS, WELCOME TO CALL FOR HELP, I'M LEO LAPORTE, THIS IS THE SHOW WHERE WE HELP YOU WITH YOUR PERSONAL CONFUSER AND ALL YOUR TECHNOLOGY, YOUR MP3 PLAYERS, YOUR DIGITAL CAMERAS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

>>Leo Laporte: AND I AM GLAD YOU'RE HERE TODAY, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF FUN, MAY I INTRODUCE MY HELPETTES, THE LITTLE HELPERS, LITTLE HELPERS, AMBER MacARTHUR --

>>Amber MacArthur: HEY, LEO.

>>Leo Laporte: -- AND ANDY WALKER --

>>Andy Walker: G'DAY.

>>Leo Laporte: AND YOU LIKE THIS? FREMANTLE FOOTBALL CLUB OR WHATEVER, YEAH.

>>Andy Walker: THAT'S NICE.

>>Leo Laporte: I'M TOLD FOOTBALL IS WHAT WE CALL, IN MY LAND, SOCCER. SOCCER. SO I JUST, I'M WEARING THIS IN A, IN A BLATANT ATTEMPT TO APPEASE THE AUSSIES.

>>Amber MacArthur: NICE!

>>Leo Laporte: SO YOU'RE GONNA TATTOO MY iPOD?

>>Amber MacArthur: BOTH OF THEM, YEAH, I'M GONNA TATTOO THEM, I KNOW, IS THAT OKAY?

>>Leo Laporte: CAN I CHOOSE MY TATTOO?

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR TATTOO, BUT I'VE ALSO MADE A CUSTOM DESIGN TATTOO JUST FOR YOU, YEAH, IT'S HIDDEN OVER THERE.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, SO WHEN I GET ON THE PLANE WITH MY CUSTOM DESIGNED iPOD, ARE THEY GONNA LAUGH AT ME?

>>Amber MacArthur: I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE.

>>Leo Laporte: MOCK ME A LITTLE BIT?

>>Amber MacArthur: IT'S POSSIBLE.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, THE HUMILIATION AHEAD. THAT'S AMBER MacARTHUR, TO HER LEFT, THE LOVELY AND TALENTED CYBERWALKER, ANDY WALKER.

>>Andy Walker: HELLO.

>>Leo Laporte: HOW YOU DOING?

>>Andy Walker: HELLO.

>>Leo Laporte: HELLO! HELLO! HELLO! WHAT YOU UP TO TODAY?

>>Andy Walker: WELL, I GOT ALL THESE OLD PENTIUM II COMPUTERS KICKING AROUND.

>>Leo Laporte: REALLY?

>>Andy Walker: YEAH, WELL, I GOT ONE OR TWO AND MY DAD GAVE ME ONE RECENTLY AND I THOUGHT, WHAT AM I GONNA DO WITH THESE DOORSTOPS? YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A BOAT, DON'T HAVE A COTTAGE, CAN'T TURN INTO AN ANCHOR. SO, WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT IT, THOUGH, IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY TURN IT INTO AN MP3 SERVER.

>>Leo Laporte: PERFECT!

>>Andy Walker: VERY EASY.

>>Amber MacArthur: COOL.

>>Leo Laporte: AND IT'S ENOUGH OOMPH TO DO THAT?

>>Andy Walker: YEAH, YEAH, PRETTY MUCH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED A WHOLE LOT OF BANDWIDTH FOR THOSE THINGS.

>>Leo Laporte: WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS SHOW, WE BUILT THE ULTIMATE GAMING MACHINE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE TOP OF THE LINE, BEST YOU COULD HAVE, ULTIMATE GAMING MACHINE, IT WAS A 266 MEGAHERTZ PENTIUM II, SO I BET YOU COULD --

>>Andy Walker: YEAH, IT DOES, IT'S BASICALLY A BIG FAT HARD DRIVE, IS ALL IT IS AND IT JUST PUSHES IT THROUGH A NETWORK, SO I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO DO THAT.

>>Leo Laporte: AND OUR GOOD FRIEND, THE PHOTOSHOP WIZARD, ALEX LINDSAY IS HERE, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SCULPTING. WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE SCULPTING.

>>Amber MacArthur: VERY COOL.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, YOU WANNA DO THAT?

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH!

>>Leo Laporte: WITH 3D SOFTWARE.

>>Amber MacArthur: DEFINITELY.

>>Andy Walker: SUPER FUN. IT'S LIKE PLASTICENE FOR PIXEL.

>>Leo Laporte: IT IS. PIXELCENE. PIXELCENE, DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT AT ALL, DOES IT? PIXELCENE. LET'S TAKE A CALL.

>>Amber MacArthur: ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE TRENT FROM HOBART, TASMANIA.

>>Leo Laporte: HELLO, TRENT, HOW ARE YOU?

>>Trent: GOOD, LEO, HOW ARE YOU?

>>Leo Laporte: I'M VERY WELL, IT'S SO GREAT -- WHOA, WE GOT A LITTLE COLLISION HERE, AFTER YOU, NIKOLA. SO WE ARE VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON ALL THE WAY FROM TASMANIA.

>>Trent: YES.

>>Leo Laporte: AND WE'RE SO GLAD TO BE BACK IN AUSTRALIA, LOOK, I'VE GOT THE FLAG, I'M WEARING THE FREMANTLE --

>>Trent: IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK IN AUSTRALIA, FINALLY.

>>Leo Laporte: YES!

>>Trent: WE ONLY HAD YOU FOR A FEW MONTHS AND WE LOST YOU AGAIN.

>>Leo Laporte: YOU KNOW, IT'S AMAZING, THOUGH, YEAH, WELL, WE WERE ONLY ON FOR A FEW MONTHS AND YET, I, WE GOT MORE LETTERS, MORE INTEREST FROM AUSTRALIA THAN ALMOST ANYWHERE EVER, IN FACT, SO MUCH SO THAT THE HOW-TO NETWORK SAID, WELL, WE OUGHTA BRING HIM BACK, SO THANKS TO THE HOW-TO NETWORK, WE'RE SO GLAD TO BE BACK IN TOWN. SO WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU?

>>Trent: WELL, I JUST WANNA START OFF BY SAYING HELLO TO EVERYONE, ANDY AND AMBER AND MIKEY, OF COURSE.

>>Amber MacArthur: HI, THERE.

>>Andy Walker: HEY, TRENT.

>>Leo Laporte: YOU MUST HAVE SEEN THIS SHOW!

>>Trent: SOMEHOW.

>>Leo Laporte: YES, SOMEHOW, BY MAGIC, YOU'VE BEEN DOWNLOADING IT, HUH? THAT'S GREAT!

>>Trent: YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: I'M SO GLAD.

>>Trent: AND THANKS TO AMBER, SHE GAVE ME SOME TIPS ON A WEB SITE I DID BEFORE.

>>Leo Laporte: OH! ALL RIGHT. SO YOU WERE PART OF THE WEB WORKSHOP AT SOME POINT?

>>Trent: NO, SHE JUST EMAILED ME BACK AND FORTH.

>>Amber MacArthur: OH!

>>Leo Laporte: OH, OH YEAH, DO YOU REMEMBER?

>>Amber MacArthur: I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK BACK, BUT --

>>Leo Laporte: WELL, HOW MANY TASMANIANS DO YOU --

>>Amber MacArthur: NOT SO MANY, OBVIOUSLY.

>>Andy Walker: LET'S GO THERE.

>>Amber MacArthur: I THINK TRENT WAS MY FIRST.

>>Leo Laporte: WELL, SEE, TASMANIA HAS A BAD REPUTATION BECAUSE OF THE TASMANIAN DEVIL.

>>Amber MacArthur: YES.

>>Leo Laporte: BUT THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST --

>>Trent: NAH!

>>Leo Laporte: NO, THAT'S SILLY, ISN'T IT?

>>Trent: IT SURE IS.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH. YOU'RE NOT THE TASMANIAN DEVIL. YOU'RE THE TASMANIAN ANGEL!

>>Trent: OF COURSE.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, SO WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU, TRENT?

>>Trent: WELL, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE BEST WAY TO CAPTURE T.V. SHOWS ONTO MY COMPUTER LIKE... OR FROM MY SATELLITE BOX?

>>Leo Laporte: RIGHT. SO YOU TAKE THEM OFF THE SATELLITE BOX. WHAT KIND OF OUT PUT DOES THE SATELLITE BOX HAVE?

>>Trent: JUST RCA OUT.

>>Leo Laporte: JUST RCA, SO YOU'RE GETTING -- OH, WAIT A MINUTE, WE GOT A -- AMAZING! WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, I CAN SEE YOU, TRENT! THAT'S AMAZING! ACROSS THE -- AROUND THE GLOBE. SO YOU HAVE RCA OUT, THAT MEANS YOU PROBABLY HAVE -- IS IT COMPONENT RCA OR IS IT JUST A COMPOSITE RCA, JUST A SINGLE --

>>Trent: JUST COMPOSITE.

>>Leo Laporte: COMPOSITE, OKAY. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE GETTING AN ANALOG SIGNAL OUT OF THAT BOX. THAT'S NOT SURPRISING, THAT'S REALLY -- THE BOX, BY THE WAY, THE DISH IS RECEIVING A DIGITAL SIGNAL AND, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WOULD BE SOMEHOW TO GET THAT DIGITAL SIGNAL INTO YOUR COMPUTER, INSTEAD OF TURNING IT INTO AN ANALOG SIGNAL, PUTTING IT IN THE COMPUTER AND THEN RE- DIGITISING IT, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, YOU LOSE SOME QUALITY DOING THAT, BUT FRANKLY, IT'S COPY PROTECTION, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE MOVIE COMPANIES THAT DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE A DIGITAL COPY OF WHATEVER THEY'RE SENDING DOWN THAT, THAT SATELLITE AND, AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY A WAY TO HACK THE THING, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M PRESUMING THAT YOU JUST WANNA GET THE ANALOG INPUT INTO YOUR COMPUTER.

>>Trent: YEAH, THAT'S ALL.

>>Leo Laporte: PROBABLY THE BEST WAY IS AN ANALOG TO DIGITAL CONVERTER, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAY, UH, WAYS TO DO THIS, ONE IS WITH A CARD IN YOUR SYSTEM, YOU CAN HAVE AN ATI ALL- IN-WONDER CARD IS ONE, THERE ARE... AND MANY OTHER COMPANIES MAKE THESE CONVERTERS, IF YOU DON'T WANNA CRACK YOUR BOX, YOU CAN USE AN EXTERNAL CONVERTER AND I THINK, FOR MOST PEOPLE, IF YOU'VE GOT FIREWIRE ON YOUR COMPUTER, THIS IS A MUCH EASIER WAY TO GO, DO YOU HAVE A FIREWIRE CONNECTION ON YOUR COMPUTER?

>>Trent: I HAVE ONE ON MY LAPTOP AND MY CARD... BUT I CAN GET A PCI CARD.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY, THERE ARE, OF COURSE, USB VERSIONS OF THESE EXTERNAL BOXES, LIKE THE DAZZLE --

>>Trent: WOULD THAT BE MPEG2 ENCODERS, I WAS READING --

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, THAT'S --

>>Trent: -- THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, EXACTLY WHAT THESE ARE, THEY HAVE HARDWARE ENCODERS, IN FACT, IT MAY BE MPEG2 AND IT MAY NOT BE.

>>Leo Laporte: MPEG2 IS ONE FORM OF COMPRESSION, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY DOING THAT KIND OF COMPRESSION IN THE BOX, THIS ONE THAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS FROM PINNACLE SYSTEMS, IT'S CALLED THE MOVIEBOX DV.

>>Leo Laporte: THE -- AND YOU SEE THE, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, IT HAS AN ANALOG INPUT THAT'LL COME RIGHT OFF YOUR SATELLITE BOX AND THEN THE AUDIO, THE LEFT AND RIGHT CHANNELS, RED AND WHITE'LL COME OFF YOUR SATELLITE BOX AND THEN THE OUTPUT ON THE OTHER END IS FIREWIRE. FIREWIRE IS BETTER THAN USB, EVEN USB 2.0, FOR THIS KIND OF THING, AND YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, INSIDE HERE IS CIRCUITRY THAT'S GONNA CONVERT IT. THE REASON IS, THE INCOMING VIDEO REALLY WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR THE 400 MEGABIT, EVEN WITH -- THAT'S -- 400 MEGABITS IS 50 MEGABYTES A SECOND, 400 -- 50 MEGABYTES A SECOND AND THAT'S STILL NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TO ENCODE THAT WHOLE SIGNAL WITHOUT SOME COMPRESSION. SO ALL OF THESE BOXES HAVE COMPRESSION, VERY FREQUENTLY MPEG2, BUT THERE ARE OTHER KINDS OF COMPRESSION THAT THEY CAN USE, I THINK THIS IS AN MPEG2 ONE.

>>Leo Laporte: AND THAT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF WHAT YOU WANT, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA BURN IT TO DVD, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE COMPRESSION --

>>Trent: YEAH, I INTEND ON DOING DVDs --

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH. SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU WANT, IT'S AN M -- WHAT THEY CALL IT IS AN ANALOG, THAT'S WHAT'S COMING IN, TO DIGITAL, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING OUT, VIDEO CONVERTER, WITH BUILT-IN MPEG2 COMPRESSION. AND, YEAH, THE, THE THING, SOME CARDS WILL LET THE PROCESSOR DO THE WORK, BUT REALLY, FOR MPEG2, WHICH IS VERY PROCESSOR INTENSIVE, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE A DEDICATED DSP CHIP AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN THIS THING THAT'S DOING THE PRESSING. SO THIS IS WHAT I RECOMMEND, I REALLY LIKE IT, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS OUT THERE, THIS IS FROM PINNACLE SYSTEMS, THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS, IN FACT, FOR PROFESSIONAL AS WELL AS CONSUMER BROADCAST APPLICATIONS, SO I THINK THEY'RE A GOOD COMPANY.

>>Trent: GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>Leo Laporte: WHAT ARE YOU MAKING VIDEOS OF?

>>Trent: OH, NOT, NOTHING YET, JUST T.V. SHOWS I WANNA RECORD.

>>Leo Laporte: JUST SOME OF YOUR FAVOURITE T.V. SHOWS? MAYBE A COUPLE OF CALL FOR HELP --

>>Trent: -- COMPUTER SHOW, WHEN IT GETS HERE, FINALLY.

>>Leo Laporte: (Laughing) MAYBE, YEAH, MAYBE A LITTLE CALL FOR HELP, YOU CAN PUT 'EM ON DVDs, SAVE 'EM FOREVER, WE WON'T MIND THAT.

>>Trent: CLASSIC CALL FOR HELP, I'VE BEEN FINDING THEM ALL OVER THE INTERNET.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, THAT'S GREAT, YEAH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE KIND OF GRASSROOTS FAN SUPPORT FOR THIS SHOW HAS TOLD ME FROM THE DAY WE STARTED DOING IT 6" YEARS AGO, ALMOST SEVEN YEARS AGO, THAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT THIS KIND OF INFORMATION. AND NO MATTER, YOU KNOW, HOW HARD IT IS TO GET, NO MATTER HOW LOW QUALITY THE VIDEO THAT THEY DOWNLOAD IS, WHATEVER, IT'S THE INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN --

>>Trent: THAT'S RIGHT.

>>Leo Laporte: -- AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO, TO EVERYBODY AND THE SUPPORT WE'VE GOTTEN AND IT JUST, IT MAKES IT WONDERFUL TO, TO DO A SHOW THAT PEOPLE LOVE! SO THANK YOU, TRENT.

>>Trent: THAT'S OKAY, NOT A PROBLEM.

>>Leo Laporte: IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE AND SOME DAY, WE'RE COMING DOWN YOUR WAY, I PROMISE YOU, WE'RE GONNA BE THERE.

>>Trent: I'LL BE WAITING.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, I WANNA MEET EVERYBODY IN AUSTRALIA. (Laughing) HEY, THANKS, TRENT.

>>Trent: ONE MORE QUESTION, LEO.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, SURE.

>>Trent: COULD YOU PUT THAT VIDEO OF LEO DOING THE BUTTERCUP ON THE INTERNET?

>>Leo Laporte: (Laughing) YOU MEAN OF MIKEY DOING "BUTTERCUP"? NOT ME, YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MIKEY DOING "FILL ME UP, BUTTERCUP".

>>Trent: THAT'S RIGHT, YEAH, MIKEY.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, HE'S, HE'S MAKING A PRETTY BIG FACE RIGHT NOW, TRENT, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

>>Trent: YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: \M FILL ME UP \M COME ON, JUST DO IT. \M FILL ME UP, BUTTERCUP \M (Singing) HE'S DOING IT! I THINK WE MAY PERSUADE HIM, TRENT, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE MORE EFFORT ON OUR PART. I THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. YOU ARE A FAN IF YOU KNOW THAT. TAKE CARE, BYE-BYE. OH BOY, MIKEY.

>>Andy Walker: YOU'RE FAMOUS IN AUSTRALIA.

>>Leo Laporte: YOU'RE FAMOUS IN TASMANIA, DUDE. COMING UP, DON'T TAKE YOUR OLD P.C. OUT TO THE CURB! GIVE IT NEW LIFE AS A MUSIC SERVER, YES, EVEN A PENTIUM II CAN BE BROUGHT BACK FROM THE DEAD! WHEN WE COME BACK, STAY RIGHT HERE.

>>Leo Laporte: IF YOUR MASSIVE, HUGE, MANLY MP3 COLLECTION IS BOGGING DOWN YOUR P.C., THERE'S A WAY TO FIX IT IN A HURRY, MY FRIENDS. GO GET AN OLD CHEAP P.C. LIKE THIS. AND TURN IT -- I ALMOST BROKE IT. AND TURN IT INTO A MUSIC SERVER, IT'S KIND OF BRITTLE IN ITS OLD AGE.

>>Andy Walker: YEAH, YEAH, BE GENTLE WITH THAT BABY.

>>Leo Laporte: ANDY'S HERE TO HELP US, THIS, THIS LOOKS SO FAMILIAR. THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE MACHINES THAT WE WERE -- IS THIS A MICRON?

>>Andy Walker: IT'S A, IT'S A DELL, ACTUALLY.

>>Leo Laporte: A DELL? IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THE MACHINES THAT WE USED IN THE OLD DAYS IN...

>>Leo Laporte: PENTIUM II, THIS IS VERY MUCH LIKE OUR ULTIMATE GAMING MACHINE.

>>Andy Walker: THERE YOU GO.

>>Leo Laporte: USED TO BE, IN ITS DAY.

>>Andy Walker: I TELL YOU, BUT YOU CAN GIVE IT NEW LIFE.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, WHADDA WE DO WITH IT? I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW --

>>Andy Walker: WELL, HERE, I MEAN, HERE'S THE THING, RIGHT --

>>Leo Laporte: THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT!

>>Andy Walker: THESE MACHINES, PEOPLE, THEY'RE IN PEOPLE'S BASEMENTS OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SITTING IN THE CLOSET SOMEPLACE --

>>Leo Laporte: IT'LL FILL THE LANDFILL, IT'LL POLLUTE.

>>Andy Walker: RIGHT.

>>Leo Laporte: AND IT, YOU KNOW, YOU SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS, LET'S USE IT FOR SOMETHING.

>>Andy Walker: AND IT HAS LIKE A FOUR GIG HARD DRIVE ON IT, A LOT OF THESE THINGS, FOUR, BETWEEN FOUR AND TEN.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>>Andy Walker: YOU KNOW, SOME -- YOU CAN GO OUT AND BUY --

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S NOT A LOT.

>>Andy Walker: NO, BUT YOU CAN BUY ANOTHER DRIVE AND STICK IT IN THE SECOND SLOT AND ADD, YOU KNOW, 160 GIGS.

>>Leo Laporte: AND YOU CAN GET A SLOW DRIVE, YOU DON'T NEED THE FASTEST, GREATEST --

>>Andy Walker: AND REALLY, LET'S FACE IT, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA BE SERVING SMALL FILES, SO YOU DON'T NEED A HUGE -- SO, I MEAN, TO START WITH, OKAY, SO YOU'RE AT HOME, YOU HAVE A COMPUTER --

>>Leo Laporte: FOUR GIG DRIVE, THIS IS LIKE A GIANT iPOD MINI, IS WHAT THIS IS.

>>Andy Walker: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

>>Leo Laporte: (Laughing)

>>Andy Walker: SO YOU'RE GONNA NEED, YOU NEED TO START WITH A, WITH A HOME NETWORK.

>>Leo Laporte: RIGHT.

>>Andy Walker: SO YOU CAN GO OUT AND BUY, YOU KNOW, WIRELESS NETWORK OR A WIRED NETWORK BOX LIKE THIS FOR $50, $60, $70 --

>>Leo Laporte: GO WIRELESS, BECAUSE THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO BUY THE WIRES, YEAH.

>>Andy Walker: SURE. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA GET HIGH-SPEED INTERNET, WE'LL TYPICALLY PLUG HIGH-SPEED INTERNET, BUT YOU DON'T NEED IT, PER SE. SO YOU'RE GONNA PLUG BOTH COMPUTERS INTO IT, OR YOU'RE GONNA CONNECT THEM WIRELESSLY. AND THEN THIS, THIS GOOD OLD WINDOWS 98 MACHINE, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IS YOU'RE GONNA BOOT IT UP AND, AND RIGHT HERE, ACTUALLY, I'M LOOKING AT THE WINDOWS 98 DESKTOP. AND I CREATED A LITTLE FOLDER CALLED MP3, VERY SIMPLE.

>>Leo Laporte: MM-HMM.

>>Andy Walker: RIGHT AND INSIDE THERE, A BUNCH OF MP3 FILES --

>>Leo Laporte: I NOTICE YOU SHARED THAT FOLDER OVER THE NETWORK.

>>Andy Walker: WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP YOU WANNA DO, WHAT YOU WANNA DO IS YOU WANNA, YOU PLUG IT INTO THE NETWORK, YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT WHAT THE NETWORK I.P. ADDRESS IS.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>>Andy Walker: AND YOU CAN DO THAT BY GOING TO YOUR "START" BUTTON AND GOING TO "RUN" AND YOU'RE GONNA GET A DOS PROMPT. AND YOU'RE GONNA TYPE "IPCONFIG". AND THAT WILL GIVE YOU AN INTERNAL I.P. ADDRESS, NOW YOU NEED TO WRITE THAT DOWN, REMEMBER THAT.

>>Leo Laporte: THIS IS AFTER YOU SET UP THE NETWORK, THIS IS THE ADDRESS, UNIQUE ADDRESS ON THE NETWORK OF THE COMPUTER.

>>Andy Walker: OF THE COMPUTER.

>>Leo Laporte: 192.168.1.SOMETHING.

>>Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT. SO REMEMBER THAT, PUT THAT ON YOUR NOTEPAD, THEN YOU'RE GONNA, ON THE FOLDER THAT YOU PUT ALL THE MP3s IN, YOU'RE GONNA RIGHT CLICK ON THAT.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>>Andy Walker: AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO "PROPERTIES". AND YOU'RE GONNA CHOOSE "SHARING". AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS, IT'LL COME UP BY DEFAULT AS NOT SHARED. YOU'RE GONNA SHARE IT AS, AND I CALL IT "MP3". THAT'S THE, THE SHARE NAME.

>>Leo Laporte: SO THAT'S GONNA PUT THE HARD DRIVE ON THIS COMPUTER ON THE NETWORK SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT.

>>Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT, EXACTLY, THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT SHAREABLE. NOW LEMME SWITCH OVER TO MY MAIN COMPUTER. AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO WINDOWS XP, WHERE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BASICALLY GO AND GET THE FILES, WE'RE GONNA SOURCE THE FILES FROM THIS MACHINE. AND YOU CAN DO IT FOR ANY MACHINE, ANY MACHINE IN THE HOUSE. YOU MAY HAVE ONE MACHINE OR MORE. AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IS YOU'RE GONNA GO TO YOUR WINDOWS EXPLORER. AND WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE BASICALLY MADE THAT FOLDER THE -- MY Y: DRIVE, IT'S A NETWORK SHARED DRIVE.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY, SO YOU MAPPED IT TO Y:.

>>Andy Walker: SO I MAPPED IT TO Y: AND YOU CAN DO THAT BY GOING TO "TOOLS".

>>Leo Laporte: RIGHT.

>>Andy Walker: GOING INTO "MAP NETWORK DRIVE". CHOOSING THE DRIVE LETTER. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY TYPE BACKSLASH BACKSLASH.

>>Leo Laporte: BACKSLASH BACKSLASH.

>>Andy Walker: THE NAME OF THE COMPUTER.

>>Leo Laporte: THE NAME, NOT THE NUMBER, THE NAME.

>>Andy Walker: YOU COULD ACTUALLY USE THE NUMBER, AS WELL.

>>Leo Laporte: 192.168.1.1, OKAY.

>>Andy Walker: BUT I'VE NAMED IT, YOU KNOW, MUSIC SERVER, YOU COULD -- AND THEN SLASH MP3.

>>Leo Laporte: SO YOU'RE SAYING THE MP3 FOLDER THAT'S ON MUSIC SERVER --

>>Andy Walker: RIGHT.

>>Leo Laporte: -- I WANNA NAME Y:

>>Andy Walker: THAT'S CORRECT.

>>Leo Laporte: SO NOW IT'S THE Y: DRIVE.

>>Andy Walker: THAT'S CORRECT.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>>Andy Walker: BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY BROWSE THAT, SO YOU CAN GO INTO "MY NETWORK PLACES" INSTEAD AND YOU CAN --

>>Leo Laporte: YOU'LL SEE IT.

>>Andy Walker: YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE IT, IN FACT, WE CAN SEE IT RIGHT HERE. BUT ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU ASSIGN IT A DRIVE LETTER, THEN EVERY TIME THEREAFTER, WHEN YOU GO ONTO YOUR COMPUTER, YOUR Y: DRIVE WILL SHOW UP.

>>Leo Laporte: THERE IT IS.

>>Andy Walker: AND IT'S ALWAYS Y:, IT'S, IT'S THERE, SO IT'S ACCESSIBLE, BASICALLY, AT ANY MUSIC PLAYER IF IT'S NETWORKED. JUST AS A --

>>Leo Laporte: SO WINAMP, YOU JUST SAY, GO TO Y:

>>Andy Walker: GO TO Y: DRIVE, EXACTLY AND THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT. NOW I PUT THE, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FOR NEWBIES, THIS IS GONNA BE --

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S A LOT OF STUFF TO GO VERY FAST.

>>Andy Walker: I DID PUT IT ON THE WEB, THE, THE STEPS ON THE WEB, SO YOU CAN KIND OF --

>>Leo Laporte: THE TRUTH IS, VERY SIMPLE THING TO DO.

>>Andy Walker: RELATIVELY IS, YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: AND IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO BE MP3 PLAYERS NOW, YOU COULD USE THIS TO SERVE ALL SORTS OF THINGS, IF YOU HOOKED UP A PRINTER TO IT, YOU COULD MAKE IT YOUR PRINT SERVER, YOU COULD MAKE IT YOUR NETWORK... THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH THIS.

>>Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT.

>>Leo Laporte: AND I MIGHT EVEN NOT PUT WINDOWS 98 ON IT, BUT PUT A LITTLE LINUX ON HERE.

>>Andy Walker: WELL, THAT WOULD BE NICE.

>>Leo Laporte: AND MAYBE DO A LITTLE SOMETHING IN A LITTLE MAGIC IN THERE IN THE THING TO MAKE THAT A MORE RELIABLE, ROBUST BOX! BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THE THING, YOU GOT SOMETHING -- IT'S DOING SOMETHING NOW, FOR A CHANGE.

>>Leo Laporte: IF YOU WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW TO TURN YOUR OLD COMPUTER INTO A MUSIC SERVER AND BY THE WAY, THIS DOESN'T COMPROMISE YOUR SECURITY AT ALL, AS LONG AS YOU'VE GOT A ROUTER TO PROTECT YOU FROM THE OUTSIDE WORLD, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAFE AND SOUND. CHECK OUT OUR SHOW NOTES, callforhelptv.com. NOW WHEN YOU GO THERE, I WANT YOU TO TRY THE DAILY QUIZ AND TEST YOUR TECH KNOWLEDGE. LET'S SEE HOW SMART YOU ARE ON THIS ONE. WHERE DID THAT LANGUAGE CALLED PYTHON, MY FAVOURITE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE, GET ITS NAME?

>>Leo Laporte: WAS IT FROM WILLIAM PYTHON -- I THINK IT WAS WILLIAM PYTHON III. A POISONOUS SNAKE, THE MONTY PYTHON SHOW OR THE CROCODILE HUNTER? WE'LL GET YOUR ANSWER IN A MINUTE, YOU STAY RIGHT HERE. THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL PYTHON, LOOK AT IT, IT'S LONG AND SLEEK -- AHHH!

>>Leo Laporte: (Humming) WE WANT CALLERS! AND WHEN DO WE WANT THEM? NOW! YES, SIR! AMBER, WHO DO YOU HAVE?

>>Amber MacArthur: WE HAVE JAY ON THE WEBCAM FROM HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA.

>>Leo Laporte: I'M SORRY, I JUST SCARED A FEW PEOPLE THERE. HELLO, JAY -- OH, WAIT A MINUTE, HE'S RIGHT THERE, HEY, JAY, HOW ARE YA?

>>Jay: I'M GOOD.

>>Leo Laporte: WELCOME TO THE SHOW, IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU.

>>Jay: I'M GREAT.

>>Leo Laporte: WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU TODAY?

>>Jay: WELL, ACTUALLY, WHAT'S GOING ON IS I HAVE AN MP3 PLAYER THAT ONLY HAS 64 MEGS OF RAM -- OR 64 MEGS OF MEMORY ON IT.

>>Leo Laporte: TEENY TINY LITTLE MP3 PLAYER.

>>Jay: YES AND ALL OF MY MP3 FILES ARE VERY, ARE COMPRESSED VERY -- AT HIGH BIT RATE.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>>Jay: AND I CAN ONLY FIT ABOUT A HALF-HOUR, NOT EVEN AN HOUR OF MUSIC ON THEM.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, AT 120 KILOBITS, YOU'D GET AN HOUR, AT LEAST, BUT --

>>Jay: EXACTLY.

>>Leo Laporte: SO YOU'VE GOT 'EM AT 160 OR 192 OR EVEN MORE, HUH?

>>Jay: SO I WAS HOPING TO FIND A PROGRAM THAT I COULD MAYBE LOWER THE BIT RATE ON THEM --

>>Leo Laporte: SURE, SURE.

>>Jay: -- SO THAT I COULD FIT MORE ON MY MP3 PLAYER.

>>Leo Laporte: EASY ENOUGH TO DO, YOU JUST WANNA RE-ENCODE IT. SO --

>>Jay: THIS IS, THIS IS THE ONE THAT I HAVE.

>>Leo Laporte: IS THAT A RIO? WHAT IS THAT?

>>Jay: YEAH, IT'S A RIO MPM 300.

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S A, I REMEMBER THAT, THAT'S A GOOD OLD DAYS!

>>Jay: YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: WAY BACK WHEN. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A VERY EASY THING TO DO, IN FACT, WITH A FREE PROGRAM THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE PART OF EVERYBODY'S MP3 TOOL KIT, IT'S ONE OF MY FAVOURITE CD RIPPERS AND DOES A LOT OF OTHER COOL THINGS, IT'S CALLED CDEX, IT'S FROM, IT'S A FREE SOURCEFORGE PROJECT, SO IT'S OPEN SOURCE, MAYBE YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT IT BEFORE, IT'S GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER ALL THE TIME, IT'S FROM cdexos.sourceforge.net AND WHAT THE -- ALL SORTS OF TOOLS IN HERE FOR, FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS, BUT IF YOU GO TO "CONVERT", YOU'LL FIND "RE- ENCODE COMPRESSED AUDIO FILES" AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO.

>>Jay: OKAY.

>>Leo Laporte: SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA SELECT THAT AND THEN I'M GONNA BROWSE TO MY, MY MUSIC ON MY MP3 FOLDER, IT'S RIGHT THERE AND THESE ARE SOME MP3s. AND THESE ARE ENCODED AT SOME PROBABLY FAIRLY LARGE SIZES, I USUALLY DO STUFF AT 160, SOME OF IT'S 192. SO I'M GONNA RE-ENCODE IT. NOW YOU HAVE A CHOICE, YOU CAN DELETE THE ORIGINALS, WHICH YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANNA DO, I WOULD, I WOULD SUSPECT YOU WANNA KEEP THE HIGH QUALITY, BUT JUST HAVE A LOW QUALITY SECONDARY VERSION. AND THEN JUST PRESS "CONVERT" AND OF COURSE, OH, I FORGOT TO SET IT FOR THE NEW BIT RATE, BUT THERE YOU GO, THAT'S HOW, HOW YOU DO IT, YOU OBVIOUSLY SET IT TO THE BIT RATE THAT YOU WANT IN THE, IN THE PREFERENCES. VERY EASY, VERY SIMPLE, VERY FAST PROGRAM AND A PRETTY DARN GOOD RIPPER, AS WELL, IN GENERAL, I MEAN, IT DOES A LOT OF NICE, NICE THINGS, VERY, VERY POWERFUL, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE THIS, SO THAT'S CALLED CDEX.

>>Jay: GREAT, I'M GONNA CHECK IT OUT.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, I THINK YOU MIGHT FIND THAT YOU END UP USING IT FOR MORE THAN JUST RE- ENCODING. AND IT DOES IT IN BATCH, WHICH IS NICE, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA SIT THERE ONE BY ONE, FEEDING IT SONGS.

>>Jay: TRUE.

>>Leo Laporte: YOU WANNA JUST BE ABLE TO LOAD 'EM ALL IN AS I DID AND JUST DO IT ALL AT ONCE. ALL RIGHT?

>>Jay: GREAT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>Leo Laporte: MY, MY GREAT PLEASURE, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, THANKS.

>>Jay: THANKS, BYE-BYE.

>>Leo Laporte: ALL RIGHT, TAKE CARE. YEAH, I'M SURE IN SOME -- YOU KNOW, I SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THIS, BUT IN THE, IN THE OPTIONS HERE, I SHOULD HAVE SET MY BIT RATE TO A LOWER BIT RATE.

>>Leo Laporte: NOW WHEN YOU'RE RE-ENCODING MUSIC, STEREO MUSIC, ANYTHING LESS THAN SAY 64, EVEN, IS A LITTLE BIT PUSHING IT. 96, OKAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IT, DOESN'T SOUND QUITE AS GOOD. 128 IS REALLY KIND OF THE MINIMUM I WOULD RECOMMEND, BUT FOR A SITUATION LIKE JAY'S, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO DOWN TO 96 KILOBITS OR EVEN 64 KILOBITS AND IT WOULD BE LISTENABLE, IT'D SOUND LIKE AN AM RADIO AT 64 KILOBITS. ON THE OTHER HAND, VOICE, YOU CAN GO MUCH LOWER, I ENCODE MOST OF MY RADIO SHOWS AND OTHER VOICE STUFF THAT I DO AT 40 KILOBITS, IT SOUNDS FINE AND, AND MANY OF THE AUDIO BOOKS I LISTEN TO, ALL THE audible.com AUDIO BOOKS, FOR INSTANCE, ARE AT 32 KILOBITS PER SECOND. AND IF YOU TAKE OUT THE STEREO, IF YOU GO 32 KILOBITS AND REMEMBER THAT THAT'S PER CHANNEL, SO YOU CUT THAT IN HALF WHEN YOU GO TO MONO, THAT'S A LOT SMALLER FILE THAN YOUR 160 OR 192 KILOBIT FILE.

>>Leo Laporte: ALL RIGHT, THANKS FOR THE CALL, COMING UP IN JUST A BIT, SEE HOW YOU CAN SCULPT 3D OBJECTS ON YOUR COMPUTER LIKE CLAY! AND YOU DON'T GET YOUR HANDS ALL DIRTY AND GET THAT WEIRD, DRY FEELING WHEN THEY DRY OUT, IT'S NO GOOD! WE GOT ALEX LINDSAY IN STUDIO WITH US, HE'S VERY ANIMATED ABOUT OUR NEXT SEGMENT. STAY RIGHT HERE.

>>Leo Laporte: ARE YOU TIRED OF REMOVING ALL THE POTTERY CLAY CAKED UNDER YOUR FINGERNAILS? I KNOW I AM. I GO HOME EVERY NIGHT WITH MY HANDS JUST COVERED WITH CLAY! WELL, ALEX LINDSAY IS HERE AND HE IS A SCULPTOR OF SORTS, HE'S GONNA SHOW US HOW TO DO IT WITHOUT GETTING YOUR FINGERNAILS DIRTY, IT'S NEW 3D MODELLING SOFTWARE, WHICH MAKES THE VIRTUAL PROCESS FEEL, HE SAYS, LIKE ACTUAL SCULPTING. ALEX LINDSAY FROM PIXEL CORPS, WELCOME BACK.

>>Alex Lindsay: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>Leo Laporte: SO THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM?

>>Alex Lindsay: IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT IT IS -- AND IT'S STILL FAIRLY UNKNOWN, BUT IT, IT'S REALLY COMING UP TO SPEED VERY QUICKLY, SO --

>>Leo Laporte: AND WHAT WOULD YOU, IS IT JUST FOR FUN OR IS THERE AN APPLICATION FOR THIS?

>>Alex Lindsay: IT STARTED OUT AS SOMETHING FOR ARTISTS WHO WANTED TO DO 2D STUFF, BUT WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF 3D INFORMATION AND THEN IT, AND NOW IT'S REALLY MOVED, SOME GUYS IN WETA, WORKING ON LORD OF THE RINGS,

>>Leo Laporte: RIGHT.

>>Alex Lindsay: IT'S REAL EASY TO DO ON A COMPUTER, WHAT'S HARD --

>>Leo Laporte: -- ORGANIC SHAPES.

>>Alex Lindsay: EXACTLY AND SO WHAT THEY REALLY WANTED WAS THIS FEELING OF, OF SCULPTING.

>>Leo Laporte: NOW DOES WETA DISTRIBUTE IT NOW OR --

>>Alex Lindsay: NO, IT'S, THERE'S A COMPANY CALLED PIXOLOGIC.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>>Alex Lindsay: AND THE PROGRAM'S CALLED ZBRUSH.

>>Leo Laporte: LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

>>Alex Lindsay: ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE INTERFACE AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS, IF I GO UNDER "TOOLS", I CAN GRAB A, A SPHERE. AND I'M JUST GONNA CLICK AND DRAG, OKAY?

>>Leo Laporte: SO YOU START AS ANY SCULPTOR WOULD, WITH KIND OF YOUR BALL OF CLAY.

>>Alex Lindsay: EXACTLY, SO NOW I HAVE MY BALL OF CLAY AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, I CAN ROTATE IT, YOU MIGHT NOT SEE IT ROTATE THERE, BUT IF I HIT "X", YOU'LL SEE THIS LITTLE -- LEMME TURN THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO YOU SEE IT, DO YOU SEE THESE LITTLE SQUARES?

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>>Alex Lindsay: THAT MEANS THAT IT'S MIRRORED, SO IT'LL DO THE SAME THING TO BOTH SIDES.

>>Leo Laporte: ANYTHING YOU DO TO ONE SIDE WILL HAPPEN ON THE OTHER.

>>Alex Lindsay: RIGHT, SO NOW, IF I START TO DRAW, LIKE IF I START TO DRAW LIKE THIS --

>>Leo Laporte: OOH!

>>Alex Lindsay: -- OR IF I PUSH IN A LITTLE BIT --

>>Leo Laporte: OOH!

>>Alex Lindsay: -- YOU KNOW, OR I PULL DOWN LIKE THAT, NOW THAT LOOKS, THAT LOOKS KIND OF COOL AND IF I TURN IT, I'M REALLY --

>>Leo Laporte: WOW!

>>Alex Lindsay: -- YOU KNOW, MODELLING IN 3D.

>>Leo Laporte: THAT WAS QUICK!

>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: WOW!

>>Alex Lindsay: WELL, I MEAN, AND THE THING IS --

>>Leo Laporte: HOW MUCH HORSEPOWER DOES THIS REQUIRE?

>>Alex Lindsay: YOU KNOW, BASIC COMPUTER -- YEAH, I'M DOING IT ON MY LITTLE LAPTOP AND, AND I CAN GO IN HERE AND LET'S MAKE THIS BRUSH A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

>>Leo Laporte: IS THIS MAC ONLY OR WINDOWS, AS WELL?

>>Alex Lindsay: MAC AND P.C. AND YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN PUSH THE STUFF IN --

>>Leo Laporte: IT'S KIND OF LIKE GOO, REMEMBER... GOO?

>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, BUT A WHOLE LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'RE JUST REALLY, YOU KNOW --

>>Leo Laporte: IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE ACTUALLY MOULDING THIS STUFF. THIS IS -- NOW I WONDER IF THIS IS HOW THEY DID GOLLUM AND STUFF LIKE THAT?

>>Alex Lindsay: THIS IS THE TYPE OF SOFTWARE THAT THEY WOULD USE, I DON'T THINK THEY USED THIS FOR GOLLUM, BUT THIS IS THE, THEY'RE, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO USE AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE PUSHING THESE GUYS TO --

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, YEAH.

>>Alex Lindsay: -- TO, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW --

>>Leo Laporte: LOOK AT THAT! YOU'VE CREATED AN ALIEN.

>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, WE CAN WHHRR!

>>Leo Laporte: WHAT FUN. NOW DID THIS TAKE YOU A WHILE TO LEARN OR --

>>Alex Lindsay: IT, IT'S ACTUALLY FAIRLY EASY TO LEARN, THERE ARE SOME GOOD VIDEOS OUT THERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT THEY HAVE BUILT INTO IT IS THAT THEY HAVE, WHEN YOU FIRST GET IT, IT'LL SAY, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO HELP YOU? AND WHEN YOU CLICK ON IT, IT'LL ACTUALLY RUN THE PROGRAM TO SHOW YOU HOW TO DO BASIC THINGS AND YOU CAN WATCH IT JUMPING FROM ONE OPERATION TO ANOTHER. SO A LOT OF THE STUFF IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE CAN...

>>Leo Laporte: I LOVE THIS. I COULD PLAY WITH THIS ALL DAY.

>>Alex Lindsay: OH, IT IS, IT IS PERFECT FOR FLIGHTS.

>>Leo Laporte: HOW MUCH IS THE PROGRAM?

>>Alex Lindsay: I THINK IT'S ABOUT $400 OR $500?

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, SO IT'S -- AS, AS ALWAYS WITH 3D MODELLING TOOLS, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND SOME MONEY.

>>Alex Lindsay: IF YOU SEE 'EM AT A SHOW, A LOT OF TIMES IT'LL BE MAYBE 250, 300, BUT GENERALLY, IT'S $400 OR $500, BUT IT IS WORTH IT, I MEAN --

>>Leo Laporte: THERE GOES MY IDEA OF RUNNING OUT AND BUYING IT FOR MY DAUGHTER, I DON'T THINK I'LL BE DOING THAT.

>>Alex Lindsay: BUT THE -- IF WE GO INTO LIKE, LET'S SEE, I, I CAN, LEMME DIVIDE THIS A LITTLE BIT. THAT WAY I MAKE IT A LITTLE -- I CAN ADD MORE GEOMETRY SO --

>>Leo Laporte: YOU'RE STILL IN SYMMETRIC MODE?

>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>>Alex Lindsay: SO ANYTHING I DO TO IT AND IF I WANT IT TO LOOK MORE, YOU KNOW, I CAN MAKE THIS LOOK REALLY BIG, FOR INSTANCE, IF I WANNA MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE APE-LIKE.

>>Leo Laporte: SEE, UNLIKE A REAL SCULPTOR, YOU CAN ADD VERY EASILY, YOU CAN -- YOU NEVER RUN OUT OF MATERIAL, YOU KNOW, YOU... LOOK AT THAT. RRR. RRR. OH YEAH! THERE YOU GO.

>>Alex Lindsay: SEE I CAN START PLAYING --

>>Leo Laporte: PLANET OF THE SILVER --

>>Alex Lindsay: THE SILVER APE. AND SO, AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE, LEMME SHOW YOU SOME OF THIS --

>>Leo Laporte: WOW!

>>Alex Lindsay: THIS IS SOME OF THE STUFF PEOPLE HAVE DONE, SO ACTUALLY, HE DID THIS --

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S QUITE REMARKABLE.

>>Alex Lindsay: -- SO THAT, THAT WAS A PAINTING HE DID IN PHOTOSHOP, BUT HE NEEDED THE 3D INFORMATION FOR THE LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, HE DIDN'T WANNA PAINT THAT. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE, AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THIS ON, ON zbrush.com.

>>Leo Laporte: THE WORLD HAS CHANGED, HE DIDN'T WANNA PAINT THAT, SO HE USED HIS SOFTWARE TO CREATE THE LIGHTING.

>>Alex Lindsay: SO THERE'S THE 3D MODEL, YOU KNOW, HERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF THAT PEOPLE HAVE PUT TOGETHER IN THIS --

>>Leo Laporte: OH WOW.

>>Alex Lindsay: -- JUST PAINTING THIS STUFF OUT, THE GEOMETRY --

>>Leo Laporte: YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN SEE WETA'S INTEREST IN THIS, I MEAN, THIS IS GREAT FOR DESIGNING MONSTERS.

>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST --

>>Leo Laporte: ORCS.

>>Alex Lindsay: -- YOU KNOW, JUST AMAZING AND HERE'S WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL DONE WITHIN ZBRUSH, 'CAUSE IT ALSO HAS A LOT OF 2D TOOLS, NOW SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE MORE COMFORTABLE USING THE 3D TOOLS, BUT IT'S A REALLY -- AND WHAT'S GREAT IS IF YOU HAVE, I HAVE A, I HAVE A, A WACOM TABLET.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>>Alex Lindsay: AND ALL OF THIS WORKS WITH IT, SO THEN YOU'RE REALLY SCULPTING BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE BRUSHING ALONG AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABLE TO VERY, VERY QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUSH --

>>Leo Laporte: SO BECAUSE IT HAS PAINT TOOLS, YOU COULD PAINT ON THESE SURFACES, YOU COULD --

>>Alex Lindsay: IT DOES.

>>Leo Laporte: -- 2D THING AND THEN MAKE IT A 3D THING.

>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, YOU CAN -- ALL OF THAT STUFF IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAKE IT 2D 3D, YOU CAN BRING IT BACK INTO PHOTOSHOP IF YOU WANT.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, YOU CAN!

>>Alex Lindsay: SO -- YEAH, WELL, YOU CAN, YOU CAN RENDER THIS AS THIS ANGLE AND THEN TAKE IT INTO PHOTOSHOP AND THEN PAINT ON IT. YOU CAN ALSO PAINT ON IT IN HERE --

>>Leo Laporte: CAN YOU EXPORT THESE MODELS TO OTHER 3D PROGRAMS LIKE SOFTIMAGE AND SO FORTH?

>>Alex Lindsay: SO YOU CAN, ANYTHING YOU WANT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY, YOU CAN SAVE THIS OUT AS WHAT'S CALLED AN OBJ, WHICH IS A VERY STANDARD FILE FORMAT AND BRING IT RIGHT IN TO, TO OTHER, TO OTHER APPS AND SO, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF NEW, WHOOPS, LEMME PUSH...

>>Leo Laporte: (imitating monkey) VERY LIFELIKE, I LIKE THAT, YEAH.

>>Alex Lindsay: THERE YOU GO. AND, AND IT'S, AS I SAID, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT --

>>Leo Laporte: (Laughing) OH, IT'S A SHE. (Laughing) I'LL BE DARNED, LOOK AT THAT.

>>Alex Lindsay: SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST AMAZING HOW YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, REALLY START TO --

>>Leo Laporte: LOOK LIKE MY UNCLE JIM.

>>Alex Lindsay: (Laughing)

>>Leo Laporte: WOW!

>>Alex Lindsay: SO BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD TAKE A LONG, LONG, LONG TIME TO DO IN A -- MUCH LONGER THAN THE, THAN THIS SEGMENT, YOU KNOW, TO PRODUCE THIS KIND OF --

>>Leo Laporte: AND THESE ARE ALL POLYGONS AND -- UNDERNEATH HERE --

>>Alex Lindsay: IT'S ALL JUST POLYGONS, YOU CAN SEE 'EM, IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM, YOU CAN SEE REAL CLOSELY, IF WE --

>>Leo Laporte: YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT.

>>Alex Lindsay: YOU CAN'T SEE IT THERE.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH. I CAN SEE IT SITTING ON THE SCREEN --

>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, IT, THERE, THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LITTLE POLYGONS THERE THAT, THAT ARE ALL THERE, SO YOU'RE JUST PUSHING AROUND A 3D SURFACE.

>>Leo Laporte: ZBRUSH.

>>Alex Lindsay: AS IF IT WAS, AS IF IT WAS CLAY.

>>Leo Laporte: ZBRUSH 2.

>>Alex Lindsay: THIS IS THE SECOND VERSION, SO ZBRUSH 2 IS THE, IT'S A NEW VERSION.

>>Leo Laporte: VERY COOL.

>>Alex Lindsay: AND IT'S, IT'S JUST -- AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD, IF YOU GO UP TO THEIR WEB SITE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DOWNLOAD A DEMO VERSION, SO IF YOU WANNA PLAY WITH IT, AND IT'S FULLY OPERATIONAL, IT'LL DO ALL THE STUFF --

>>Leo Laporte: JUST CAN'T SAVE?

>>Alex Lindsay: I THINK YOU CAN'T SAVE AND IT, IT RE -- YOU NEED TO RE-INITIALISE THE PASSWORD EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH THEM. BUT YOU CAN RUN IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS --

>>Leo Laporte: THAT I MIGHT DO FOR MY DAUGHTER, SHE MIGHT LIKE -- TWO WEEKS IS PROBABLY ALL SHE NEEDS.

>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, AND, AND AT LEAST TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

>>Leo Laporte: IS THIS THE KIND OF SOFTWARE YOU TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO USE IN PIXEL CORPS?

>>Alex Lindsay: WE DO. YES, WE, WE TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM 3D TO VIDEO TO VISUAL EFFECTS, EVERYTHING WITHIN, WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE GUILD.

>>Leo Laporte: THIS IS A, THE GUILD OF 3D DESIGNERS. IF YOU WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS, pixelcorps.com, P-I-X-E-L- C-O-R-P-S.COM, THAT'S ALEX'S WEB SITE AND THERE ARE HOW MANY PEOPLE NOW IN THE PIXEL CORPS?

>>Alex Lindsay: THERE ARE OVER 1,000 PEOPLE IN 33 COUNTRIES.

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S REALLY GREAT, ALL OVER THE WORLD THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO USE THIS STUFF AND, AND WORKING WITH EACH OTHER IN A KIND OF COLLABORATIVE WAY.

>>Alex Lindsay: WHICH IS WHAT MAKES IT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES IT THE MOST VALUABLE.

>>Leo Laporte: FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THIS 3D SCULPTING TOOLS AND HOW YOU CAN PLAY WITH IT YOURSELF, GO TO OUR SHOW NOTES, callforhelptv.com, WE'LL ALSO HAVE A LINK TO PIXEL CORPS THERE. MAKE MORE OF YOUR CALLS COMING UP IN JUST A BIT AND OUR FREE FILE OF THE DAY WHEN WE COME BACK, STAY RIGHT HERE.

>>Leo Laporte: LET'S KEEP THIS SHOW ROLLING LIKE A CHOCOLATE SPRINKLED DOUGHNUT, BABY! LET'S ASK OUR NEXT CALLER WHAT THEIR FAVOURITE FLAVOUR IS, WHO DO WE HAVE ON THE PHONE?

>>Amber MacArthur: WE HAVE BLAKE FROM BEAMSVILLE, ONTARIO.

>>Leo Laporte: HELLO, BLAKE!

>>Blake: HELLO.

>>Leo Laporte: HOW ARE YOU?

>>Blake: GOOD.

>>Leo Laporte: YOU LIKE CHOCOLATE-FILLED DOUGHNUTS?

>>Blake: YES.

>>Leo Laporte: YES. THAT WOULD BE AN AFFIRMATIVE, CAPTAIN. WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE DOUGHNUT FLAVOUR?

>>Blake: UM, VANILLA.

>>Leo Laporte: VANILLA DOUGHNUTS.

>>Blake: YES.

>>Leo Laporte: MMM!

>>TASTY.

>>Leo Laporte: YOU'RE GETTING EVERYBODY HUNGRY AROUND HERE, BLAKE. WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU?

>>Blake: I WAS WONDERING WHAT'S A GOOD PROGRAM TO USE FOR MAKING P.C. VIDEO GAMES.

>>Leo Laporte: OH REALLY. YOU WANNA BE A VIDEO GAME DESIGNER, HUH?

>>Blake: YES.

>>Leo Laporte: HOW OLD ARE YOU?

>>Blake: 11.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, MY SON'S 10, THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO DO, TOO. WHAT VIDEO GAMES DO YOU PLAY RIGHT NOW?

>>Blake: PLAYSTATION 2.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY. SO PROBABLY AND, AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOUR PARENTS. PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO START IS TO GET A GAME THAT HAS A, THAT HAS A, YOU KNOW, A VIDEO -- YOU WANNA DO A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER TYPE GAME?

>>Blake: YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH. YOU -- ALMOST ALL THE FIRST PERSON SHOOTER GAMES FOR P.C.s HAVE MOD TOOLS, THEY CALL THEM THAT COME WITH THEM, I'LL GIVE YA -- MY FAVOURITE IS THE UNREAL COLLECTION, UNREAL TOURNAMENT GAMES. BUT DOOM DOES IT, A LOT OF THESE OTHER GAMES DO, HALF LIFE DOES, HALF LIFE ACTUALLY HAS A VERY GOOD LEVEL, THEY CALL THEM LEVEL EDITORS, BUT WHAT THEY REALLY ARE IS WAYS THAT YOU CAN DESIGN A GAME USING THE ENGINE THAT COMES WITH THE GAME. ALL, ALL OF THESE FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS ARE REALLY OF TWO, HAVE TWO PARTS TO THEM. THEY HAVE AN ENGINE WHICH IS THE UNDERLYING SOFTWARE THAT, THAT RENDERS AND PUTS THE IMAGES ON THE SCREEN, BUT WITH, BUT THERE ARE NO IMAGES IN THE ENGINE, THE ENGINE JUST SAYS HOW, YOU KNOW, HERE'S, YOU KNOW, HOW TO DO IT, HERE'S, HERE'S, HERE'S HOW TO CRANK IMAGES OUT. THERE IS A WHOLE SEPARATE PART OF THE GAME, AND IT'S USUALLY DONE BY A WHOLE DIFFERENT TEAM, THAT IS WHAT THE GAME LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THE RULES OF THE GAME ARE, WHAT THE GAMEPLAY IS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS LIKE WHAT THE PLAYERS LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE TEXTURE MAPS ARE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT -- AND YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT IN SOME OF THESE GAMES, AND CERTAINLY ON THE P.C. SIDE, NOT SO MUCH ON PLAYSTATION 2, BUT ON THE P.C. SIDE, THERE ARE MANY, MANY MODS RELEASED FOR GAMES, I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE. HALF LIFE, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL GAME, THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF HALF LIFE WAS MODDED BY PEOPLE TO MAKE IT INTO -- IT WAS ORIGINALLY KIND OF THIS SCI-FI GAME WHERE YOU'RE FIGHTING UNDERGROUND AGAINST THESE ALIEN FORCES, THEY MODDED IT INTO A GAME WHERE YOU ARE -- CALLED COUNTER STRIKE, WHERE YOU'RE ON A TEAM WITH PEOPLE AND YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE ABOVE GROUND AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGHT, BASICALLY FIGHT A, A WAR WITH, WITH ACTUAL REALISTIC ARMAMENT. AND -- A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAME! AND THEY DID IT NOT BY REWRITING, NOT BY WRITING A VIDEO GAME, BUT BY USING MOD TOOLS, LEVEL TOOLS, TO MODIFY THE EXISTING GAME ENGINE.

>>Leo Laporte: SO HALF LIFE 2, NOW THE THING IS, YOUR PARENTS ARE GONNA SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE, BLAKE, THAT'S TOO VIOLENT A GAME FOR YOU. BUT SAY, BUT MOM, DAD, THIS ISN'T, I DON'T, I'M NOT GETTING THIS TO PLAY THE GAME, OH NO! YOU MISUNDERSTAND ME. I WANNA BE A WEALTHY VIDEO GAME DESIGNER AND SUPPORT YOU IN YOUR OLD AGE AND THIS IS HOW YOU START! SO WILL YOU DO THAT? THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT, NOW --

>>Blake: OKAY.

>>Leo Laporte: -- AFTER YOU GO BEYOND THAT, THERE ARE, IN FACT, WHAT YOU PROBABLY WERE THINKING OF, WHICH IS ENGINES FOR DESIGNING VIDEO GAMES, THIS IS A VERY POPULAR ONE CALLED GMAX. IN FACT, A LOT OF GAMES, REAL LIVE GAMES ARE DONE IN GMAX. BUT THIS IS A LOT HARDER, THIS IS FREE, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT, I'LL PUT A LINK ON THE SHOW NOTES, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF STUFF WITH THIS, I THINK... DESIGNED IN GMAX, AS WELL, HOWEVER, THIS IS A LITTLE MORE ADVANCED AND YOU NOW NEED AN ENGINE AND THERE'S A WHOLE LOT, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS MORE LIKE A LEVEL EDITOR, SO I WANT, I WANT YOU TO START WITH THE FREE TOOLS THAT COME WITH AN EXISTING GAME. FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR 50 BUCKS FOR UNREAL TOURNAMENT, THEN YOU CAN LEARN THE GAME. ANDY HAS, ANDY WANTED TO BE A GAME DESIGNER, TOO, BEFORE HE GOT SIDETRACKED. YOU HAVE SOME INPUT?

>>Andy Walker: YES, I WANTED TO BE PART OF THE $16 BILLION GAME INDUSTRY.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, NO KIDDING.

>>Andy Walker: I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A FREE FILE BEFORE CALLED GAMEMAKER.

>>Leo Laporte: GAMEMAKER.

>>Andy Walker: FREE DOWNLOAD --

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S A LITTLE EASIER, YEAH, ACTUALLY LEMME SEE IF -- DO YOU HAVE THAT ON YOUR --

>>Andy Walker: YEAH, IT'S JUST gamemaker.nl.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>>Andy Walker: IT'S A FREE DOWNLOAD.

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S PRETTY COOL, THAT, BUT IT'S NOT AS ELABORATE, THESE GAMES, THESE ARE MORE --

>>Andy Walker: NO, THEY'RE VERY SORT OF, IT'S FOR BEGINNERS, REALLY.

>>Leo Laporte: THESE ARE MORE 2D GAMES, YEAH.

>>Andy Walker: BUT IF YOU SCROLL DOWN ON THAT PAGE, THERE'S SOME ACTUALLY SOME COOL --

>>Leo Laporte: IT'S PRETTY AMAZING, YEAH, I MEAN, THERE ARE LIKE DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS TYPES GAMES, THERE'S SOME RACING GAMES. SO I AGREE, THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY TO GO, GAME -- AND I'LL PUT A LINK ON THIS TO THE SHOW NOTES, AS WELL. THIS IS FREE, THIS IS CALLED GAMEMAKER, OKAY, BLAKE?

>>Blake: OKAY.

>>Leo Laporte: BUT THIS ISN'T LIKE A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER, THIS IS A SIMPLER KIND OF 2D GAME, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU THE TRUTH. MAKING A GOOD GAME, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS NOT HOW IT LOOKS, BUT THE PLAY, THE GAMEPLAY.

>>Blake: YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: AND LEARNING HOW TO MAKE A GAME INTERESTING IS REALLY MORE IMPORTANT AND THIS, THIS WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR THAT, IF YOU CAN MAKE A GAME THAT'S COMPELLING WITH GAMEMAKER, YOU'VE GONE A LONG WAY TO BECOMING A GAME DESIGNER, WHAT KIND OF GAMES DO YOU WANNA DO, DO YOU THINK?

>>Blake: UM, LIKE ACTION ADVENTURE.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, THAT'S SO GREAT! I THINK THAT'S REALLY -- YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A NATURAL THING, TOO, WHEN YOU PLAY A LOT OF GAMES TO THINK, BOY, I'D LIKE TO START WRITING THESE, THAT'S HOW I GOT INTO COMPUTERS, IS PLAYING GAMES AND THEN STARTING TO WRITE MY OWN SOFTWARE. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S TOO UNUSUAL, EITHER, SO I WISH YOU LUCK. WHAT GRADE ARE YOU IN?

>>Blake: UM, SIX.

>>Leo Laporte: GOOD! I THINK THAT'S A GOOD AGE TO START YOUR GAME CAREER. YEAH.

>>Andy Walker: THAT'S TRUE.

>>Leo Laporte: YOU HAVE ANY HEROES? WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE GAMES RIGHT NOW?

>>Blake: UM, JAK AND DAXTER.

>>Leo Laporte: I LOVE JAK AND DAXTER! SO DOES MY --

>>Blake: YEAH, I LOVE THAT GAME.

>>Leo Laporte: -- SO DOES MY SON, IT'S SO MUCH FUN. THE BUCKET OF BOLTS AND ALL THAT, OH, YOU'RE JUMPING UP AND DOWN AND, OH, THAT'S SO MUCH FUN. THAT'S KIND OF, IT'S LIKE A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER, BUT IT'S REALLY MORE OF A PLAT, MORE LIKE A PLATFORM GAME, REALLY, THAN A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER. NOT QUITE SO VIOLENT, ALTHOUGH LOTS OF FUN. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I, I THINK, THIS ISN'T EXACTLY JAK AND DAXTER, BUT THIS WILL GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF 2D GAMING AND THEN IF YOU GET UNREAL OR HALF LIFE 2, I THINK YOU'LL GET A REALLY NICE GAME DEVELOPMENT TOOL THAT'LL LET YOU GO EVEN FARTHER. MAYBE YOU COULD DO JAK AND DAXTER WITH THE UNREAL ENGINE, THAT'D BE PRETTY COOL. ALL RIGHT?

>>Blake: OKAY.

>>Leo Laporte: HEY, IF YOU MAKE A GAME, SEND IT TO US, WE'LL SHOW IT ON THE AIR.

>>Blake: OKAY.

>>Leo Laporte: THANKS, BLAKE.

>>Blake: YOU'RE WELCOME.

>>Leo Laporte: SEE YOU LATER.

>>Blake: BYE.

>>Leo Laporte: TAKE CARE. YEAH, THAT'S A STEP AHEAD OF WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO, WHICH IS TO BE A GAME TESTER.

>>Leo Laporte: HE ACTUALLY WANTS TO CREATE SOMETHING, I JUST WANTED TO SIT THERE AND PLAY ALL DAY.

>>Andy Walker: AND HEY, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR HIM, HE CAN ALWAYS BE A HOST ON A TELEVISION SHOW.

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO ME! IT COULD BE WORSE! IF YOU HAVE A CD COLLECTION, YOU ARE ALLOWED BY LAW TO COPY THE TRACKS ONTO YOUR COMPUTER AND CONVERT THEM INTO MUSIC FILES FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE ON A DIGITAL MUSIC PLAYER, SO EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS! BUT HOW? ANDY'S GOT OUR CD RIPPER ON TODAY'S FREE FILE OF THE DAY. NOW I JUST SHOWED HIM CDEX, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD. BUT THIS IS ANOTHER VERY GOOD CHOICE.

>>Andy Walker: THIS IS A PRETTY TASTY CD RIPPER, FOR SURE, FOR SURE. IT'S CALLED CD-DA --

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>>Andy Walker: -- X-TRACTOR, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE STORY WITH THE, ALL THE HYPHENS THERE, BUT --

>>Leo Laporte: WELL, CDDA IS THE, IS THE AUDIO FORMAT FOR A CD, AN AUDIO CD, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

>>Andy Walker: REALLY.

>>Leo Laporte: THERE WASN'T A HYPHEN IN THERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

>>Andy Walker: OKAY.

>>Leo Laporte: AND THIS EXTRACTS IT. INTO WHAT, MP3?

>>Andy Walker: WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

>>Leo Laporte: WHATEVER YOU LIKE!

>>Andy Walker: IN FACT, WHAT'S COOL IS THAT IT'LL GO INTO MP3, INTO OGG VORBIS --

>>Leo Laporte: VORBIS, OH, THAT'S GREAT, OKAY.

>>Andy Walker: SO LOTS OF THINGS AND VERY EASY TO USE, TOO, YOU PUT A CD INTO YOUR CD DRIVE.

>>Leo Laporte: WE HAVE DONE THAT.

>>Andy Walker: WHICH I'VE DONE THAT, THE COORS IS IN THERE.

>>Leo Laporte: WILL IT LOOK IT UP?

>>Andy Walker: IT, UH, YOU CAN EDIT THE ID3 TAGS, BUT, UH, YEAH, IT DOES HAVE ACTUALLY A SERVER --

>>Leo Laporte: ... AND IT'LL LOOK IT UP.

>>Andy Walker: SO I'M JUST GONNA GO, LET'S EXTRACT THESE. OH, NO TRACKS SELECTED, HANG ON.

>>Leo Laporte: IT DOESN'T SEE YOUR CD.

>>Andy Walker: REFRESH CD.

>>Leo Laporte: THERE YOU GO.

>>Andy Walker: AND NOW WE'RE GONNA GO EXTRACT, YES.

>>Leo Laporte: NOW I WOULD LOOK IT UP ON THE... UNLESS YOU REALLY WANNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ENTERING IN ALL THIS STUFF.

>>Andy Walker: YEAH AND IT'S JUST BASICALLY GONNA GO THROUGH ONE TRACK AT A TIME, IT'S GONNA RIP 'EM AT A TIME, YOU CAN, YOU CAN CONTROL THE BIT RATE IN THE OPTIONS. YOU CAN CHOOSE THE SERVER THAT YOU USE TO LOOK UP THE FILE NAMES.

>>Leo Laporte: RIGHT, RIGHT.

>>Andy Walker: AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S RELATIVELY FLEXIBLE, IT'S FAIRLY QUICK, KIND OF LIKE THAT, YOU CAN STOP IT AFTER THE FIRST TRACK.

>>Leo Laporte: IT'S USING THE LAME ENCODER, WHICH IS FAR FROM LAME, IT'S JUST THE NAME.

>>Andy Walker: IT'S JUST THE --

>>Leo Laporte: YOU KNOW THE LAME ENCODER WAS WRITTEN BY A FELLOW WHO WAS WATCHING THE SCREEN SAVERS THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS WRITING IT?

>>Andy Walker: IS THAT RIGHT?

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOOD OR BAD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS IT'S A GOOD PIECE OF SOFTWARE OR NOT. ACTUALLY IT IS, IT'S KIND OF THE STANDARD FOR THE OPEN SOURCE MP3 ENCODER.

>>Andy Walker: OH, IS THAT RIGHT?

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>>Andy Walker: SO THEN ONCE, ONCE THE FILES ARE ACTUALLY RIPPED, IT GIVES YOU A BUNCH, IT GIVES YOU A STATUS, BUT IT ACTUALLY DUMPS IT INTO A FOLDER, IF I GO TO "START", "PROGRAMS", INTO, IT JUST SAYS BROWSE OUTPUT FOLDER. AND SO WHAT IT DOES IS IT, YOU KNOW, IT PUTS 'EM ALL THERE.

>>Leo Laporte: AND SOMEBODY'S BEEN NAMING YOUR MP3s.

>>Andy Walker: YES.

>>Leo Laporte: I WON'T NAME NAMES.

>>Andy Walker: YES.

>>Leo Laporte: I DON'T THINK THEY'RE MIKEY, THOUGH.

>>Andy Walker: NO, IT WASN'T MIKEY, IT WAS SEAN. YES, I THINK SEAN'S OBSESSED WITH MIKEY, THAT'S THE THING, SO --

>>Leo Laporte: THE ALBUM IS "THE MIKEY LOVERS", THE ALBUM TITLE IS "MIKEY IS A GOD" AND THE NAME OF THE SONG, "MIKEY IS THE COOLEST". MAYBE MIKEY DID DO THAT ONE, I DON'T KNOW.

>>Andy Walker: (Laughing)

>>Leo Laporte: CD-DA X-TRACTOR. HYPHENS ARE FREE.

>>Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT.

>>Leo Laporte: JUST GO TO THE WEB SITE AND CLICK THE LINK TO DOWNLOAD IT AND callforhelptv IS THE PLACE, ALL OUR FREE FILES ARE THERE. COMING UP, MY -- I'M GONNA GET A TATTOO.

>>Andy Walker: ARE YOU?

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, LIVE ON T.V.

>>Andy Walker: ON YOUR BUM?

>>Leo Laporte: NO, MY iPOD.

>>Amber MacArthur: (Laughing)

>>Leo Laporte: WHICH IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE. WHEN CALL FOR HELP CONTINUES, BUT YOU DON'T GET RID OF US THAT EASILY, BECAUSE FIRST WE'RE GONNA CHALLENGE YOU ONE MORE CHANCE TO TAKE OUR QUIZ QUESTION, WHERE DID THE PYTHON, OR "PITH-ON", LANGUAGE GET ITS NAME? WILLIAM PYTHON, A POISONOUS SNAKE, THE MONTY PYTHON SHOW OR THE CROCODILE HUNTER, MATE! WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH THE ANSWER, OH, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE! >> YOU'RE PLAYING ANOTHER SILLY GAME? COME EAT DINNER.

>>Leo Laporte: BEFORE THE BREAK, WE ASKED YOU WHERE MY FAVOURITE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE, PYTHON, GOT ITS NAME, I DON'T KNOW, IS IT MY FAVOURITE, IT'S MY FAVOURITE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LEARNING TO PROGRAM, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. AND OF COURSE IT'S FROM THE MONTY PYTHON SHOW, GUIDE VAN ROSSUM, THE MAN WHO WROTE PYTHON, THE LANGUAGE, IS A BIG MONTY PYTHON FAN AND OF COURSE, EVERY PYTHON BOOK AND EVERY PYTHON WEB SITE HAVE MANY MONTY PYTHON REFERENCES AS A RESULT. IT'S VERY MUCH A PART OF THE, OF THE PYTHON LANGUAGE. MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I LIKE IT. WELL, I TELL YOU, I WAS AT MACWORLD EXPO LAST MONTH AND THERE -- NOTHING BUT iPOD ACCESSORIES AS FAR AS THE EYE COULD SEE.

>>Amber MacArthur: THERE'S SO MANY ACCESSORIES OUT THERE.

>>Leo Laporte: IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE NEW WAY TO MAKE MONEY, I GUESS.

>>Amber MacArthur: YUP.

>>Leo Laporte: APPLE MAKES THE iPOD, SO -- AND HEWLETT PACKARD, AMONG OTHERS, SELL IT AND, AND NOW HEWLETT PACKARD'S COME UP WITH A WAY TO CUSTOMISE IT, AMBER'S GOT THE DETAILS.

>>Amber MacArthur: iPOD TATTOOS, I ACTUALLY CHECKED THESE OUT WHEN I WAS AT C.E.S. A WHILE BACK AND THEY HAD A BUNCH OF iPODS ALL TATTOOED WITH DIFFERENT MUSIC ARTISTS, DIFFERENT DESIGNS, SO WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU TODAY HOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THEM.

>>Leo Laporte: AND THESE ARE TEMPORARY, I CAN --

>>Amber MacArthur: THEY'RE TEMPORARY, SO THEY PEEL RIGHT OFF.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY, 'CAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS TO MY iPOD.

>>Amber MacArthur: I WON'T WRECK YOUR iPOD.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY. SO AND THESE -- THEY GAVE US A FEW THAT THEY HAD PRINTED OUT --

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, EXACTLY.

>>Leo Laporte: ANY, ANY PHOTO PRINTER WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THESE?

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, ANY PHOTO PRINTER CAN DO THEM, YOU JUST NEED TO ACTUALLY BUY THE HP iPOD TATTOO PAPER. SO YOU CAN --

>>Leo Laporte: OH, IT'S SPECIAL PAPER.

>>Amber MacArthur: IT'S SPECIAL PAPER, SO YOU CAN GET THAT FROM THEIR WEB SITE AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BOX OF IT THERE WE CAN --

>>Leo Laporte: 'CAUSE IT'S GOT CUT-OUTS.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, IT HAS CUT-OUTS, SO IT FITS PERFECTLY ON THE iPOD AND iPOD MINI.

>>Leo Laporte: SO THIS IS WHAT -- OH AND YOU WOULD GET THE ONE THAT WAS FOR THE iPOD THAT YOU HAVE.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, EXACTLY, SO THAT'S A -- IT COMES, I THINK THERE'S TEN PIECES, TEN SHEETS IN THERE, AS WELL AS SOME TEST SHEETS AND IT'S $15 U.S. AND THE TEST SHEETS ARE REALLY, REALLY HANDY, BECAUSE I SCREWED UP A COUPLE OF TIMES.

>>Leo Laporte: DID YOU?

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, I DID.

>>Leo Laporte: NOW WHERE DO YOU GET THE DESIGNS?

>>Amber MacArthur: OKAY, SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU, GO TO THE HP WEB SITE AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TEMPLATES THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, OKAY, SO I DON'T HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF, ALTHOUGH I MUST WANT TO.

>>Amber MacArthur: YOU CAN, WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU TWO THINGS, WE'RE GONNA SHOW HOW TO ACTUALLY GET THE TEMPLATES FROM THE HP WEB SITE AND HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN TEMPORARY TATTOO.

>>Amber MacArthur: OKAY, TO START OUT WITH, WE GO TO HP, AND WE CAN CHECK OUT, HERE WE HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT MUSIC DESIGNS.

>>Leo Laporte: THEY FOCUS ON ARTISTS?

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, THEY FOCUS ON ART, BUT THEY HAVE DESIGNS, TOO, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST PRETTY, LIKE PLAIN PINK, PLAIN BLUE, SO SAY IF YOU WANTED THE, I DON'T KNOW, PINK MINI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT --

>>Leo Laporte: AND YOU DIDN'T GET ONE.

>>Amber MacArthur: AND YOU DIDN'T GET ONE. OR YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD JUST THE WHITE ONE.

>>Leo Laporte: YOU GET A SILVER ONE.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, EXACTLY, YOU COULD DECORATE IT AND PUT YOUR OWN TEMPLATE ON IT, SO IT'S KIND OF FUN.

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S GOOD NEWS FOR YOU.

>>Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY. SO WE CAN CHECK OUT HERE ON THE MUSIC TEMPLATES, THIS IS THE GWEN STEFANI TEMPLATE, IF YOU CAN LOOK CLOSE UP ON THIS RIGHT HERE.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, MY DAUGHTER WOULD WANT THIS.

>>Amber MacArthur: ISN'T IT PRETTY? IT'S REALLY COOL.

>>Leo Laporte: SHE IS A HIRAJUKU GIRL.

>>Amber MacArthur: SO YOU CAN --

>>Leo Laporte: MY DAUGHTER.

>>Amber MacArthur: -- YOU CAN ALSO JUST --

>>Leo Laporte: SO IS GWEN.

>>Amber MacArthur: THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF NEAT, BECAUSE WHAT THEY DO ON THE HP SITE IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ON YOUR iPOD.

>>Leo Laporte: I LIKE HOW THEY PUT IT ON, TOO.

>>Amber MacArthur: I KNOW, SO THOSE ARE THE DONNAS AND THIS IS THE TEMPLATE.

>>Leo Laporte: CAN I ROTATE THE iPOD, THOUGH, CAN I SEE WHAT THE BACK IS GONNA LOOK LIKE?

>>Amber MacArthur: YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT THE BACK'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ON HERE, BUT WE'LL SHOW YOU AFTERWARDS, SO THAT'S JUST A SAMPLE, THEY ALSO HAVE -- AND THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THE ACTUAL, SO THIS IS THE GWEN STEFANI TEMPLATE.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>>Amber MacArthur: AND THEN WE'LL JUST OPEN IT UP, SO IT'S A PDF FILE.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, ALL RIGHT.

>>Amber MacArthur: AND WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU HAVE THE PAPER IS JUST PUT THE PAPER IN, CAN ACTUALLY TAKE OUT A SHEET OF --

>>Leo Laporte: ALMOST ANY, ALMOST ANY --

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, THERE'S A PLAIN PAPER.

>>Leo Laporte: ALMOST ANY IMAGING PROGRAM CAN READ THE PDF FILE.

>>Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY, SO YOU TAKE IT OUT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PUT THE PAPER IN THE RIGHT WAY. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

>>Leo Laporte: -- VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW YOU PUT THIS IN YOUR PRINTER.

>>Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY.

>>Leo Laporte: THEY SHOW YOU A LITTLE DIAGRAM.

>>Amber MacArthur: THEY SHOW YOU A LITTLE DIAGRAM, SO YOU PUT IT IN AND THEN IT COMES OUT AND, YOU KNOW, TAKES A COUPLE OF MINUTES, YOU SHOULD PRINT AT REALLY HIGH QUALITY, BUT DO A FEW TEST SHEETS FIRST. JUST TO -- YEAH --

>>Leo Laporte: SO YOU'VE HAD A LITTLE --

>>Amber MacArthur: I HAD A LITTLE DIFFICULTY, ACTUALLY, JUST TURNING IT UPSIDE DOWN AND IT WAS LATE AND I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, BUT IT ENDED UP WORKING OUT OKAY.

>>Leo Laporte: WHICH, WHICH PRINTER WERE YOU USING?

>>Amber MacArthur: I ACTUALLY JUST USED AN HP PRINTER THAT I HAVE AT HOME, JUST AN ALL-IN- ONE.

>>Leo Laporte: BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE AN HP, ANY PHOTO PRINTER --

>>Amber MacArthur: OH NO, NO, YOU CAN USE ANY PHOTO PRINTER AT ALL, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO --

>>Leo Laporte: PROBABLY WOULDN'T DO THIS ON A LASER PRINTER.

>>Amber MacArthur: NO, MAYBE NOT.

>>Leo Laporte: NEED AN INKJET PRINTER. YEAH, IT SAYS INKJET PRINTER.

>>Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY, SO USE INKJET PRINTERS. SO AS I SAID, THEY HAVE FASHION TEMPLATES, THEY HAVE MUSIC TEMPLATES --

>>Leo Laporte: THIS IS VERY COOL.

>>Amber MacArthur: I KNOW, IT'S VERY COOL AND THEY HAVE JUST REGULAR DESIGNS, SO HERE'S A COUPLE OF SAMPLES OF THE REGULAR DESIGNS THAT HAVE JUST HOT PINK LIPS. KIND OF FUN, SO THEY HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FIRST IS ACTUALLY PUT ONE OF THE iPOD TATTOOS ON, I ACTUALLY GOT THESE FROM HP, SO THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, THIS IS VANESSA CARLTON. AND WE'RE GONNA PUT IT RIGHT ONTO THE, ONTO THE iPOD. SO IT'S REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, YOU JUST PEEL IT OFF.

>>Leo Laporte: THIS SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT, TOO, BUT MAYBE I'M JUST --

>>Amber MacArthur: NO, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

>>Leo Laporte: SHOULD I DO MINE WHILE YOU'RE DOING YOURS? OH, YOU'VE GOT ONE FOR ME.

>>Amber MacArthur: YOU COULD JUST WAIT, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY SHOW YOU HOW TO MAKE A CUSTOMISED TATTOO.

>>Leo Laporte: IT ISN'T THAT HARD.

>>Amber MacArthur: IT'S NOT THAT HARD.

>>Leo Laporte: IF YOU DO IT WRONG, YOU CAN...

>>Amber MacArthur: YOU CAN, YOU CAN --

>>Leo Laporte: NOW THIS ONE HAS BUTTONS, IS IT GONNA COVER THE BUTTONS? IS THIS THE WRONG...

>>Amber MacArthur: LET'S SEE, WELL, THIS ONE MIGHT NOT -- WE'LL JUST SHOW A SAMPLE, BUT YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: -- FOR THE 3G iPOD.

>>Amber MacArthur: 3GI, BUT WE'LL JUST SHOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

>>Leo Laporte: SO YOU HAVE TO GET THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT FOR YOUR iPOD, I GUESS.

>>Amber MacArthur: BUT THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE ONCE YOU DO IT.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, THIS IS FOR THE FOURTH GENERATION iPODS WE'VE GOT --

>>Amber MacArthur: THIS AN OLDER, OLDER VERSION. BUT STILL, IT LOOKS -- YOU CAN SEE, IT LOOKS KIND OF COOL, YEAH!

>>Leo Laporte: AND IT HAS A DOT FOR THE WHEEL.

>>Amber MacArthur: HAS A DOT FOR THE WHEEL AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE BACK, IT DOESN'T COVER UP THE WHOLE BACK. I'LL COVER UP YOUR PHONE NUMBER. (Both laughing)

>>Amber MacArthur: SO IT'S REALLY COOL AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT COMES OFF, I WON'T SHOW YOUR PHONE NUMBER, BUT IT COMES OFF VERY EASILY.

>>Leo Laporte: IT'S NOT MY PHONE NUMBER ANY MORE, WHOEVER'S PHONE NUMBER IT IS IS GONNA BE MIGHTY UNHAPPY.

>>Amber MacArthur: I KNOW. SO WHAT WE'LL DO NOW IS WE'LL SHOW YOU ACTUALLY HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, LET'S MAKE ONE OF OUR OWN!

>>Amber MacArthur: SO THIS, THIS IS KIND OF FUN, I THINK ANDY WILL LIKE THIS, 'CAUSE HE'S JUST BOUGHT A MAC AND HE'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE AN iPOD ANY DAY NOW.

>>Leo Laporte: ANY -- YEAH, USUALLY YOU DO IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, ANDY, BUT ALL RIGHT.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, HE'S DIFFERENT. SO WE CAN BROWSE HERE FOR, UM, THIS ISN'T THE ONE I USED FOR YOU, BUT I WAS JUST THINKING, IF ANDY WANTED TO ACTUALLY MAKE HIS OWN iPOD TATTOO. YOU CAN, YOU PICK YOUR PHOTO AND THEY HAVE TEMPLATES HERE, SO THIS IS A PHOTO I FOUND FROM THE CYBERWALKER WEB SITE, WHICH I LIKED, I THINK IT'S KIND OF FUN, IT'S ANDY DRIVING AROUND. SO ALL YOU DO HERE IS YOU IMPORT THE PHOTO AND THEN YOU CAN CROP IT.

>>Leo Laporte: SO THIS IS WEB- BASED SOFTWARE.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, IT'S ALL WEB-BASED, YOU CAN ALSO PLAY WITH THE BRIGHTNESS, YOU CAN MOVE IT UP AND DOWN HERE.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

>>Amber MacArthur: THE CONTRAST, SCALING, SO YOU, IF YOU WANT MORE ANDY, YOU CAN MAKE IT BIGGER --

>>Leo Laporte: AND WHO DOESN'T WANT MORE ANDY?

>>Amber MacArthur: I KNOW, I KNOW, IT'S A PROBLEM.

>>Leo Laporte: BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER WHERE THE iPOD HOLES ARE GONNA GO, SO YOU GOTTA --

>>Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY, SO IT'S KIND OF TRIAL AND ERROR, THAT'S WHY THE TEST SHEETS ARE REALLY GOOD.

>>Leo Laporte: THEY'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, SO, SEE, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE, WHICH IS KIND OF COOL, I THINK IT'S NEAT WHEN IT CUTS OUT PARTS OF IT.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, LIKE HE'S PEEKING OUT OF THE iPOD.

>>Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY, SO HE'S PEEKING OUT OF THE iPOD, SO THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, I THINK HE'S KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THIS. BUT YOU ACTUALLY GET THE PAPER AND YOU CAN PRINT IT OFF AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE YOUR OWN ANDY WALKER iPOD.

>>Leo Laporte: I LIKE THAT. BOY, I SURE WOULD LIKE THAT.

>>Amber MacArthur: I KNOW, IT'S KIND OF COOL, BUT WHAT I'VE DONE FOR YOU, LEO, IS --

>>Leo Laporte: YOU'VE PRINTED ONE FOR ME?

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: IS THIS IT?

>>Amber MacArthur: THIS IS IT RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE CALL FOR HELP TATTOO.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, LOOK AT THAT! THAT WILL BE VERY NICE, LET ME PUT THAT ON MY NEW iPOD, SO I HAVE A, I HAVE A FOURTH GENERATION iPOD, SO I CAN PUT THIS ON, SHALL I TRY IT?

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, YOU SHOULD TRY TO PUT IT ON, FOR SURE.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY, NOW, SO IF YOU DON'T, SO YOU DON'T GET THE WHEEL, THE MIDDLE PART, THE WHEEL PART YOU DON'T TAKE.

>>Amber MacArthur: -- JUST LEAVE THAT IN, YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT PUT THAT ON, BUT YOU JUST GONNA WRAP THIS, YOU JUST WRAP THIS AROUND.

>>Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY.

>>Leo Laporte: AND WHEN I -- OH, THIS IS GONNA LOOK GREAT. AND THEN I CAN TAKE THIS ON THE AIRPLANE AND EVERYBODY WILL SAY --

>>Amber MacArthur: YOU DID A BETTER JOB THAN I DID.

>>Leo Laporte: -- DUDE, DUDE, YOUR iPOD ROCKS, DUDE!

>>Amber MacArthur: I KNOW, EXACTLY.

>>Leo Laporte: HOW'D YOU DO THAT?

>>Amber MacArthur: BUT YOU CAN PUT PICTURES ON, YOU COULD HAVE A PICTURE OF, YOU KNOW, A BEAUTIFUL BEACH THAT YOU VISITED OR SOMETHING REALLY COOL, YOU COULD SWITCH THEM UP, IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN ACCESSORY.

>>Leo Laporte: HEY, KEANU, LOOK AT THIS. WHOA!

>>Amber MacArthur: SO NOW YOU HAVE THE, THE CALL FOR HELP iPOD.

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S PRETTY NICE, IT ACTUALLY --

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH!

>>Leo Laporte: BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT GETS, IT GETS DOWN PRETTY GOOD ON THERE.

>>Amber MacArthur: AND IT, IT STAYS PRETTY TIGHT ON THERE.

>>Leo Laporte: AND IT DOES LEAVE THIS -- I WONDER WHY IT LEAVES THIS OPEN, I GUESS SO YOU SEE THE BRAND NAME.

>>Amber MacArthur: SO YOU SEE THE APPLE. YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: OR IN HP'S CASE, YOU SEE --

>>Amber MacArthur: THE HP, EXACTLY, SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY SUPER EASY TO DO, IT'S KIND OF A FUN THING FOR KIDS --

>>Leo Laporte: OH, MY DAUGHTER WOULD LOVE THIS.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, I MEAN EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME WHITE iPODS AND I READ THIS LITTLE STORY ABOUT HP, HOW ORIGINALLY THEY THOUGHT OF DOING THEIR iPODS IN DIFFERENT COLOUR AND THEY DECIDED TO KEEP THEM WHITE AND THEN THEY CAME OUT WITH THE TATTOOS IN ALL DIFFERENT, AS I SAY, ARTISTS AND YOU GET THE DIFFERENT COLOURS AND MAKING YOUR OWN, I THINK, IS PROBABLY THE MOST FUN THING YOU CAN DO. THERE, LEO, YOU COULD BE, YOU COULD BE ON THE PLANE FLYING HOME. (Laughing) WITH YOUR OWN LEO LAPORTE CALL FOR HELP iPOD TATTOO.

>>Leo Laporte: MY DAUGHTER GOES, DAD, PUT ON THE HEADPHONES.

>>Amber MacArthur: (Laughing)

>>Leo Laporte: OH, HEADPHONES! WHAT A CONCEPT.

>>Amber MacArthur: AND WE'LL MAKE ANDY ONE, TOO.

>>Leo Laporte: GOOD!

>>Amber MacArthur: WITH THAT GREAT PHOTO.

>>Leo Laporte: AS SOON AS HE GETS AN iPOD. REMEMBER TO HEAD OVER TO OUR SHOW NOTES FOR AMBER'S SEGMENT TO CHECK OUT THE WEB SITE, callforhelptv.com, IF YOU'VE GOT A BETTER IDEA OR ANOTHER IDEA FOR AMBER --

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT amber@callforhelptv.com.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, WELL,

>>Amber MacArthur: IT'S KINDA COOL.

>>Leo Laporte: THAT'S REALLY COOL. IT AIN'T OVER YET, FOLKS, WE WRAP THIS BABY UP SNUG LIKE A LITTLE BUG IN A RUG RIGHT AFTER THIS, STAY RIGHT HERE.

>>Leo Laporte: WELCOME BACK TO CALL FOR HELP, LEO LAPORTE HERE WITH AMBER AND ANDY AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME FUN, THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD SHOW TODAY.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, LOTS OF FUN.

>>Leo Laporte: YEAH, ONCE AGAIN, WHY NOT WELCOME OUR NEW VIEWERS IN AUSTRALIA, SO NICE TO HAVE YOU ABOARD. SOON WE WILL ENCOMPASS THE ENTIRE GLOBE.

>>Amber MacArthur: EXCELLENT.

>>Leo Laporte: WE'VE GOT PINS IN AUSTRALIA, WE'VE GOT -- DID WE PUT A PIN IN TASMANIA?

>>Amber MacArthur: NO, I DON'T THINK WE DID.

>>Leo Laporte: OH, BETTER PUT A PIN IN TASMANIA, DO WE HAVE ONE?

>>Amber MacArthur: UNDER THE TABLE.

>>Leo Laporte: YOU'VE BEEN HIDING A PIN.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, I'VE BEEN HIDING A PIN.

>>Leo Laporte: SO WE HAVE A CALLER FROM TASMANIA, WE'VE HAD PERTH, WE'VE HAD MELBOURNE. THERE YOU GO, RIGHT IN THE, RIGHT IN THE SEA.

>>Amber MacArthur: THERE WE GO!

>>Leo Laporte: HEY, IT'S SO, IT'S SO GREAT TO HAVE YOU CALLING AND PLEASE, ANYBODY WHO CAN SEE THIS SHOW AND I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU ARE, I WANT YOU TO ASK A QUESTION SO WE CAN PUT YOU ON, WE'VE HAD CALLS FROM MEXICO.

>>Amber MacArthur: OH YEAH.

>>Leo Laporte: WE'VE HAD CALLS FROM THE CARIBBEAN, WE'VE HAD CALLS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AND I WANT YOU TO CALL US NEXT, SO HERE'S HOW YOU DO IT. YOU GO TO callforhelptv.com AND YOU FILL OUT THAT FORM, IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT, IT SAYS ASK A QUESTION AND IT'LL GET SENT IN AND WE GET TO AS MANY OF THEM AS WE CAN, WE GET TO QUITE A FEW OF THEM OVER TIME. AND, AND OF COURSE YOU CAN ALSO EMAIL US.

>>Amber MacArthur: YEAH, amber@callforhelptv.com.

>>Andy Walker: andy@callforhelptv.com.

>>Leo Laporte: AND I'M leo@callforhelptv.com. WE'RE THE THREE MUSKETEERS! YEAH, ANDY'S TURNING INTO AMBER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED THAT.

>>Amber MacArthur: IT'S PART OF MY PLAN.

>>Leo Laporte: HE'S GOT A MAC, HE'S GOT AN iPOD.

>>Andy Walker: ... iPAD, YEAH. (All laughing)

>>Leo Laporte: HEY, THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION OF CALL FOR HELP, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

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