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>> Amber MacArthur: GET ONLINE TRAVEL TIPS FROM MR. JOHNNY JET, TODAY ON CALL FOR HELP.

>> I HOPE THESE PEOPLE CAN HELP ME WITH MY COMPUTER. OH! (Gasping) NO!

>> A TECHNICIAN WILL BE WITH YOU IN FOUR HOURS.

>> FOUR HOURS?!

>> YOU CAN UPGRADE FOR JUST $5,000.

>> WHAT?!

>> THE UNIVERSAL SERIAL CONFIG BOARD SHOULD BE SET TO I.D.6.

>> I NEED THAT IN PLAIN ENGLISH. HELP!

>> Leo Laporte: LEO LAPORTE AT CALL FOR HELP. MAY I HELP YOU?

>> Leo Laporte: WHAT ARE YOU GUYS LAUGHING AT? HEY, WELCOME TO CALL FOR HELP, I'M LEO LAPORTE. I'M TRYING TO BE A SERIOUS, YOU KNOW, ANNOUNCER TYPE AND THEY'RE GOING TEE, HEE, HEE.

>> Leo Laporte: WELCOME TO THE SHOW, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY PALS, MY BUDDIES, AMBER MacARTHUR AND ANDY WALKER.

>> Amber MacArthur: HEY, LEO.

>> Leo Laporte: HEY, GOOD TO SEE YA!

>> Andy Walker: HELLO.

>> Leo Laporte: SO WHAT WERE YOU LAUGHING ABOUT?

>> Andy Walker: I DON'T KNOW.

>> Amber MacArthur: RANDOM HUMOUR.

>> Andy Walker: BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?

>> Leo Laporte: I FEEL LIKE A TEACHER IN CLASS.

>> Amber MacArthur: (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: NOTHING?

>> Amber MacArthur: NOTHING.

>> Andy Walker: I LIKE THE COLOUR OF YOUR SHIRT, THOUGH --

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE MOCKING, AREN'T YOU?

>> Andy Walker: NO! IT'S, IT'S VERY --

>> Leo Laporte: WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THAT?

>> Amber MacArthur: PERIWINKLE? (Laughing) I DON'T KNOW.

>> Leo Laporte: PERIWINKLE.

>> Amber MacArthur: MAYBE.

>> Leo Laporte: LOOKS BLUE TO ME, I DON'T KNOW. SO WHAT ARE YOU GONNA BE DOING ON THE SHOW TODAY?

>> Amber MacArthur: ACTUALLY MIKEY'S HERE AND HE JUST GOT A NEW MAC AND THIS IS HIS MAC RIGHT HERE. AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW HIM HOW TO USE APPLE MAIL.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, THAT'S GOOD.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH!

>> Leo Laporte: THE INS AND OUTS OF THE -- IT'S THE MAIL PROGRAM THAT COMES WITH THE --

>> Amber MacArthur: IT IS, YEAH, IT'S THE MAIL PROGRAM, THE CUSTOM MAIL PROGRAM AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW HIM THE BASICS.

>> Leo Laporte: VERY GOOD.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH!

>> Andy Walker: I SAW HIM USE IT AS A DOORSTOP THE OTHER DAY.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, I'M WAITING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HE -- I DON'T KNOW WHY HE BOUGHT IT, TO BE HONEST, HE'S STILL SLAMMING THE THING, YOU KNOW --

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, I KNOW. HE'S COMING AROUND.

>> Leo Laporte: WELL, YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA GET HIM IN THE --

>> Amber MacArthur: I THINK SO, YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: -- ON THE DARK SIDE?

>> Amber MacArthur: IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME.

>> Leo Laporte: ALL RIGHT. WHAT ARE YOU -- YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING WITH THE -- I SAW YOU FIDDLING AROUND WITH THOSE CAMERAS, WHAT ARE YOU UP TO?

>> Andy Walker: YEAH, I'M, WELL, I GOT A BUNCH OF WI-FI CAMS IN SO THAT YOU CAN PUT A WIRELESS CAMERA ANYWHERE IN YOUR HOUSE OR IN YOUR OFFICE AND BROADCAST IT TO THE INTERNET.

>> Leo Laporte: OH!

>> Andy Walker: SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SPY ON YOUR CAT, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT YOUR GOLDFISH GETS UP TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, HOME ALONE.

>> Leo Laporte: (Laughing) YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED.

>> Amber MacArthur: YES.

>> Leo Laporte: I THINK THEY GET UP AND THEY GO AND THEY, AND THEY TAKE STUFF OUT OF THE FRIDGE. I THINK THEY DO. AND THEM AMBER AND I ARE GONNA TEST OUR, OUR MUSICAL KNOWLEDGE.

>> Amber MacArthur: OH YEAH, NAME THAT iTUNE.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, IT'S A GAME?

>> Amber MacArthur: IT'S A GAME, WE'RE GONNA PLAY IT.

>> Leo Laporte: FOR THE MAC?

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: OH BOY, OKAY, I GOT MY THINKING CAP ON HERE, THINKING CAP.

>> AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

>> Leo Laporte: THANK YOU, JOHN. THEY'RES DOING THAT BECAUSE OF YOU, YOU'RE WEARING THE, THE KING OF SILLY WALKS SHIRT.

>> Andy Walker: MINISTRY OF SILLY WALKS, YEAH, YEAH.

>> Andy Walker: GOT THIS FROM 80tees.com.

>> Leo Laporte: GUY'S GOT A HECK OF A KICK THERE, I WISH I COULD DO THAT.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, I CAN'T DO THAT.

>> Leo Laporte: CAN'T?

>> Amber MacArthur: NO, NOT QUITE.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, I BET YOU COULD. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET OUR FIRST CALLER OF THE DAY HERE.

>> Amber MacArthur: ALL RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: OOH, I'M STUCK.

>> Amber MacArthur: WE HAVE ROB FROM OTTAWA, ONTARIO, ON THE LINE.

>> Leo Laporte: ALL RIGHT, ROB, LEMME SEE IF I CAN JUST GET OVER THERE AND -- OH-HO! OW! THINK I BROKE THE TABLE. OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. HEY, HOW ARE YOU, ROB?

>> Rob: I'M HERE, I'M GOOD.

>> Leo Laporte: SAY HELLO TO NIKOLA! CIAO, CIAO. LET'S -- (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU GET THE MOST OUT OF YOUR PERSONAL CONFUSER, ROBERT.

>> Rob:\A

>> Leo Laporte: THANK YOU.

>> Rob: YEAH, BEEN WATCHING YOU GUYS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF VDTV.

>> Leo Laporte: WOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY TAKE THE DAY OFF WORK TO BE -- WATCH THIS SHOW.

>> Rob: HEY, HEY, DON'T SAY THAT, I COULD GET IN TROUBLE.

>> Leo Laporte: (Laughing)

>> Rob: IT WASN'T BAD ENOUGH IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN WE COULD END UP GOING TO JAIL FOR WATCHING YOU GUYS.

>> Leo Laporte: (Laughing) HEY, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A RECENT COURT DECISION, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD IMPACT IT OR NOT, BUT I HEARD THIS THE OTHER DAY IN CANADA, WHERE A JUDGE SAID IT'S YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO WATCH ANY SATELLITE PROVIDER YOU WANT, INCLUDING U.S. --

>> Rob: ISN'T THAT GREAT?

>> Leo Laporte: -- U.S. SATELLITE PROVIDERS.

>> Andy Walker: OH, WOW!

>> Leo Laporte: SO THAT COULD CHANGE THINGS QUITE A BIT.

>> Andy Walker: THAT'D BE GREAT.

>> Rob: YES, IT IS!

>> Leo Laporte: 'CAUSE WE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, I'M NOT GONNA NAME ANY NAMES, WHO BORROWED DIRECT T.V. HEY, CAN I BORROW A CUP OF DIRECT T.V.?

>> Rob: SOME OF US SUBSCRIBED, SOME OF US PAID.

>> Leo Laporte: GOOD, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. HEY, WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU, ROB?

>> Rob:\A

>> Leo Laporte: WOW!

>> Rob: SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE THE RELIGIOUS FANATIC THAT ALL OF US END UP BECOMING, GOT ME HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.

>> Leo Laporte: YES? GOOD!

>> Rob: SO I FIND A LOT OF MY TIME I SPEND TRYING TO, TO ESPOUSE THE BENEFITS OF THE MAC PLATFORM TO MY, MY PEERS.

>> Leo Laporte: YES.

>> Rob: AND WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS I INEVITABLY END UP CAUGHT TRYING TO DESCRIBE THAT WINTEL MONOPOLY PLATFORM VERSUS THE MAC PLATFORM.

>> Leo Laporte: RIGHT.

>> Rob: THE TERMINOLOGY USED AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE INDUSTRY ADOPTS THE P.C. VERSUS MAC TERMINOLOGY, BUT I ALWAYS END UP WITH SOME SMART ALECK SAYING, WELL, ISN'T A MAC A PERSONAL COMPUTER?

>> Leo Laporte: IT IS AND IT SHOULD BE CALLED A P.C., SHOULDN'T IT?

>> Rob: IT SHOULD BE.

>> Leo Laporte: BUT IT'S, BUT NOBODY DOES.

>> Rob: SO I GUESS WHAT WE NEED IS SOMEBODY LIKE YOURSELF, INFLUENTIAL IN THE MEDIA, TO, YOU KNOW, CORRECT US ALL, GIVE US THE TERM THAT IS POLITICALLY CORRECT.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>> Rob: AND HELP US OUT.

>> Leo Laporte: SO, OKAY, FROM NOW ON, ALL WINDOWS P.C.s WILL BE CALLED "HAIRBALL COMPUTERS" --

>> Rob: I LIKE IT.

>> Leo Laporte: AND ALL MACS WILL BE CALLED "COMPUTERS".

>> Rob: PERFECT!

>> Leo Laporte: (Laughing)

>> Rob: JUST TO, TO HIGHLIGHT THE PROBLEM WITH THESE AND MAKE THAT APPROPRIATE TERMINOLOGY --

>> Leo Laporte: YES.

>> Rob: -- HAD WE USED THE ACTUAL iSITE THAT I'VE GOT AVAILABLE TO ME HERE ON THE MAC, I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE YOU.

>> Leo Laporte: NO, YEAH, BECAUSE WE USE, UH, SORRY TO SAY, ROB, WE USE MSN MESSENGER FOR OUR CONNECTIONS, WHICH DOESN'T WORK WITH -- ARE YOU USING iCHAT AV?

>> Rob: YES, OR I CAN TALK TO PEOPLE ON AIM, AS WELL.

>> Leo Laporte: AIM, THE ONLY, YEAH, THE ONLY WINDOWS MESSENGER THAT WORKS WITH iCHAT AV IS AIM AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, IN FACT, THE NEWEST VERSION OF AIM.

>> Rob: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: AND WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS GET iVISIT, BECAUSE iVISIT WORKS WITH THE iCHAT, RATHER WITH THE iSITE AND WINDOWS AND MAC CROSS PLATFORMS, SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT RIGHT! THAT'S NOT FAIR! YOU HAVE A CAMERA AND WE HAD THIS PROBLEM IN THE OLD TECH T.V. DAYS AND WE DID, YOU KNOW, HERE'S HOW I'M GONNA SPIN IT. WE DON'T WANNA WASTE A MAC DEDICATING IT TO BE A NETCAM MACHINE WHEN WE COULD BE USING IT FOR REAL COMPUTING.

>> Amber MacArthur: AH, THAT'S GOOD.

>> Leo Laporte: GOOD, HUH?

>> Rob: YOU'VE GOTTA CONVERT THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE GOT NEXT TO YOU.

>> Leo Laporte: THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH IS AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA REALLY BE DEAD HONEST WITH YOU, OF COURSE YOU KNOW ME, I DO LOVE THE MAC, BUT YOU SEE HERE WINDOWS, WINDOWS AND THE TRUTH IS THAT I USE BOTH AND THEY'RE BOTH MORE ALIKE THAN THEY ARE DIFFERENT. IT'S TO EACH HIS OWN, WHICHEVER YOU PREFER, WHATEVER YOU LIKE, YOU LIKE MAC, I LIKE MAC, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO USE MAC AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, IF MIKEY ENDS UP AND I'M GLAD HE TRIED THE MAC, BUT IF HE ENDS UP SAYING, YOU KNOW, I JUST AM MORE COMFORTABLE WITH WINDOWS, FINE! I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

>> Rob:\A

>> Leo Laporte: AND I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH, IRONICALLY, MACINTOSH PREDATED WINDOWS AS WE KNOW IT.

>> Rob: YOU MEAN INVENTED.

>> Leo Laporte: IT CAME OUT IN '84 AND WINDOWS 1.0 CAME OUT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THAT, I THINK THAT REALLY P.C.s ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE WINDOWS -- ACTUALLY THEY'RE NOT WINDOWS MACHINES, THEY'RE GONNA BE X86 INTEL BOXES AND NO, NOT THEY'RE INTEL BOXES, EITHER, 'CAUSE THEY'RE AMD.

>> Rob: AMD.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S WHY WE CALL 'EM P.C.s, 'CAUSE THEY COULD BE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

>> Rob: AND THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED P.C. MAGAZINE, IT'S NOT --

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>> Rob: OKAY.

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A WIN -- IT'S NOT WINTEL, THOUGH, 'CAUSE IT COULD BE LINUX AND IT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INTEL, BECAUSE IT COULD BE AMD, SO WHAT DO WE CALL IT, WIN- LINUX-AMD-TEL BOX?

>> Andy Walker: CONFUSER.

>> Leo Laporte: CONFUSER.

>> Rob: I HAVE A TERM, BUT I \A

>> Leo Laporte: NO, DON'T SAY BAD NAMES. (Laughing) THE SPAWN OF SATAN. SO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK P.C.s AND MACS, THAT MAKES SENSE, THAT'S FOR THE HARDWARE AND THEN YOU SAY "WINDOWS" OR "LINUX" AND "OS/9" OR "OS/10" FOR THE OPERATING SYSTEM, I THINK THAT'S CLEAR, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO USE THAT TERMINOLOGY. A LOT OF PEOPLE, FOR INSTANCE, SAY, WHY DO YOU CALL 'EM "HACKERS", THESE BAD GUYS ON THE INTERNET? YOU SHOULD CALL 'EM "CRACKERS", 'CAUSE "HACKERS" ARE JUST GUYS WHO LIKE TO -- I WOULD INCLUDE MYSELF AND I KNOW ANDY, IN THAT CATEGORY, PLAY -- BANG AROUND ON COMPUTERS AND TRY TO MAKE 'EM DO INTERESTING THINGS.

>> Andy Walker: YOU'RE JUST HACKING AWAY.

>> Leo Laporte: YOU'RE HACKING AWAY, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ILLEGAL OR WRONG OR BAD, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT A HACKER IS AND IF I GO AND SAY "CRACKER" PEOPLE -- I'M GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT EVERY SINGLE TIME, SAME THING WITH P.C.s, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY "P.C." AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IT -- LANGUAGE IS ABOUT COMMUNICATION.

>> Rob:\A

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S RIGHT, SAY, LEO SAYS --

>> Rob: THAT IS THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY.

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S, IT'S A P.C. 'CAUSE YOU MORONS THINK IT'S A P.C. NO, I'M -- DON'T SAY THAT, MAN, I'LL, NOW I'LL REALLY GET IN TROUBLE. NO, THAT'S WHAT, IT'S WHAT PEOPLE, IT'S WHAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I AM A BELIEVER OF USING LANGUAGE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, WHY OBFUSCATE THINGS? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ANYWAY, THANK YOU, ROB, I THANK YOU FOR THE CALL.

>> Rob: THANK YOU AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AND I HOPE YOU DO GROW BACK INTO THE STATES, BUT NEVER LEAVE US.

>> Leo Laporte: WE WILL AT SOME POINT, BUT I DO WANNA, I DO WANNA SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE CALLER TODAY IS GONNA RECEIVE A FREE -- (Beeping)

>> Leo Laporte: -- STAR TREK COMMUNICATOR COURTESY OF CAPTAIN KIRK, SO JUST HANG ON THERE, WE'RE GONNA GET YOUR ADD -- NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. LOOK AT THAT! THAT'S A SILLY THING. OUR DIRECTOR, STEVE, BROUGHT THAT IN, HE GOT THIS AT A STAR TREK CONVENTION.

>> SCOTTY, GET US OUT OF HERE.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH. (Beeping)

>> Leo Laporte: SO WE'RE GONNA BEAM UP TO A LITTLE COMMERCIAL BREAK, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, OUR NEWBIE MAC USER, MIKEY, IS HERE TO LEARN ALL THE BASICS OF HIS NEW iBOOK, HE'S HOLDING ON TIGHT, HE'S GRIPPING HIS DELL TIGHT, MAYBE WE CAN PRY IT OUT OF HIS HANDS, WE'RE GONNA SHOW HIM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INS AND OUT OF MACINTOSH WITH ANDREW WHEN WE CONTINUE, STAY RIGHT HERE.

>> SCOTTY, GIMME THAT POWER!

>> Leo Laporte: WELCOME BACK TO CALL FOR HELP, TODAY AMBER AND I ARE WORKING WITH MIKEY. TO, TO BRAINWASH HIM. TO SHOW HIM EVERYTHING HE NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT HOW TO GET EVERYTHING DONE IN APPLE MAIL, WE'RE GONNA REPLACE OUTLOOK. NOW THERE IS A MICROSOFT OFFICE FOR THE MACINTOSH AND OF COURSE, YOU COULD USE ENTOURAGE, WHICH IS THE OUTLOOK FOR THE MAC, BUT MAIL COMES WITH OS/10, SO --

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, MAIL'S PRETTY GOOD, ACTUALLY ENTOURAGE IS GOOD IF YOU HAVE A LOT MORE TO KEEP TRACK OF AND YOU NEED A LOT MORE ORGANISATIONAL TOOLS. BUT FOR THE MOST PART --

>> Leo Laporte: LEMME SWITCH THIS OVER HERE SO WE CAN SEE THE MACINTOSH.

>> Amber MacArthur: FOR THE MOST PART, APPLE MAIL IS GREAT AND IT CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT IT TO DO. ALL RIGHT, SO, MIKEY, HERE WE GO. YOU READY?

>> Mikey: SO NERVOUS.

>> Amber MacArthur: I KNOW, HE'S A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS. SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA JUST START WITH THE BASICS AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PREFERENCES IN APPLE MAIL, SO THIS IS ABOUT GETTING SET UP IN APPLE MAIL.

>> Mikey: OKAY.

>> Amber MacArthur: SO YOU DO EVERYTHING WITHIN MAIL PREFERENCES, WE HAVE THIS NICE LITTLE WINDOW HERE.

>> Leo Laporte: I'M GONNA POINT OUT ONE THING, VERY IMPORTANT, AND IT CONFUSES EVEN MAC USERS, IS HOW DO YOU CHOOSE THE DEFAULT MAIL PROGRAM? WELL, YOU DO IT IN MAIL, YOU SEE THIS SAYS "DEFAULT EMAIL READER"? EVEN IF YOU'RE CHANGING IT TO SOMETHING ELSE, IF YOU HAD ENTOURAGE INSTALLED, FOR INSTANCE, IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE THERE, THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD DO IT, SO --

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S KIND OF CONFUSING, BUT MAIL NOT ONLY IS IMPORTANT FOR YOUR EMAIL, BUT IT'S ALSO HOW YOU CHANGE YOUR DEFAULT MAIL READER TO OTHER MAIL --

>> Amber MacArthur: COOL, YEAH, THAT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD TO KNOW IN CASE YOU DECIDE TO GET ENTOURAGE.

>> Leo Laporte: EXACTLY.

>> Amber MacArthur: EXCELLENT. OKAY, SO IN THE GENERAL BUTTON YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY THE DEFAULT EMAIL READER AND YOU CAN CHANGE THIS TO CHECK FOR NEW MAIL EVERY FIVE MINUTES, EVERY 15 MINUTES, LET'S KEEP IT ON EVERY FIVE MINUTES. UNLESS YOU GET A TON OF MAIL.

>> Mikey: NO, NO, IT'S OKAY. FIVE MINUTES IS PRETTY GOOD.

>> Leo Laporte: -- TOO MUCH, BECAUSE YOUR INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER MAY --

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, EXACTLY, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MAIL SOUNDS, SO YOU CAN CHANGE IT, YOU HAVE LOTS OF GREAT SOUNDS. THE BLOW, BOTTLE, FROG, LOTS OF THEM, SO --

>> Leo Laporte: THE FROG IS LIKE UNH!

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, THERE'S LOTS OF GOOD STUFF. SO THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AS FAR AS ACCOUNTS, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW TO ACTUALLY GET SET UP TO GET YOUR MAIL COMING IN AND TO GET YOUR MAIL GOING OUT.

>> Leo Laporte: LOOKS LIKE HE'S SET IT UP.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, HE STARTED TO SET IT UP, IT'S NOT QUITE WORKING YET.

>> Mikey: NO, WE HAVEN'T GOT --

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE WORK IN HERE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, YOUR ACCOUNT INFORMATION GOES IN HERE AND THEN YOUR SERVER SETTINGS.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, THIS IS AN iMAP SERVER AT mac.com, SO IT'S LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, OH, YOU'RE, YOU USE OFFICE SMTP, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY.

>> Mikey: EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, SO YOU -- THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET YOUR MAIL SET UP, WITH YOUR INCOMING SERVER AND YOUR OUTGOING, OUTGOING SERVER.

>> Mikey: NO DIFFERENT THAN WINDOWS --

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, THIS IS --

>> Leo Laporte: IN FACT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ANALOGOUS CAPABILITIES.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR. SO THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT FEATURE, THE JUNK MAIL FEATURE, SO THIS IS WHERE YOU FIGHT SPAM BASICALLY AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF SPAM IN YOUR INBOX. SO YOU CAN ENABLE JUNK MAIL FILTERING AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU JUST MENTIONED TO ME, ACTUALLY EARLIER WAS THAT IT'S IN TRAINING MODE WHEN YOU FIRST GET THE COMPUTER.

>> Mikey: RIGHT AND, AND, AND I GOT A MESSAGE YESTERDAY, ACTUALLY, THAT TOLD ME THAT IT EITHER LEARNED ENOUGH ABOUT MY, MY MAIL HABITS.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>> Mikey: AND THAT I COULD SET AUTOMATIC AND IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY --

>> Leo Laporte: SEE, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY NICE.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: THE TRAINING MODE CONTINUES TO PUT IT IN YOUR INBOX SO YOU DON'T LOSE ANY MAIL UNTIL IT'S SMART ENOUGH TO REALLY BE SURE, ONCE YOU FEEL LIKE, YEAH, IT'S DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB, YOU CAN HAVE IT GO TO THE SPAM BOX.

>> Amber MacArthur: SO IT STAYS IN TRAINING FOR, I THINK, A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SOMETHING AND THEN IT GOES AUTOMATICALLY INTO YOUR --

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S NEAT.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH. AND I --

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE LITTLE TOUCHES THAT ARE REALLY VERY DIFFERENT IN A MAC WORLD.

>> Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY, THE LITTLE EXTRA, YOU KNOW?

>> Amber MacArthur: NO BIAS HERE.

>> Leo Laporte: WE SOUND LIKE SUCH BIASED PEOPLE.

>> Amber MacArthur: I KNOW, I KNOW, IT'S TERRIBLE. SO THAT HELPS, I USE ACTUALLY USE JUNK MAIL FILTERING ALL THE TIME ON, IN APPLE MAIL, I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>> Mikey: FROM THE MAIL I'VE RECEIVED SO FAR, IT'S GOTTEN 99.5%.

>> Amber MacArthur: IT'S GOOD ENOUGH, YEAH, ESPECIALLY FOR A HOME USER, IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

>> Leo Laporte: DEFINITELY.

>> Amber MacArthur: SO IN HERE YOU HAVE YOUR FONTS AND YOUR COLOURS, SO THIS WILL ALLOW YOU TO CHANGE ALL YOUR FONTS, SAME SORT OF THING YOU DO IN OUTLOOK. AND THE VIEWING, THIS IS HOW YOU VIEW YOUR MAIL, ONE NEAT THING THAT I USE IN APPLE MAIL ALL THE TIME IS FOR OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE USING AOL MESSAGING IS YOU CAN SEE WHEN SOMEONE'S ONLINE WITH THEIR EMAIL, SO THEY'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL AND THERE'S A TINY LITTLE ICON THAT SAYS THAT YOUR BUDDY'S ONLINE, SO YOU CAN CHAT IMMEDIATELY WITH THEM, SO THAT'S A NICE LITTLE EXTRA, AS WELL. COMPOSING, IT PRETTY, YOU KNOW, SAME, SAME THING AS OUTLOOK. YOUR SIGNATURES, YOU CAN GO IN HERE, ACTUALLY, LET'S QUICKLY ADD YOUR SIGNATURE IN HERE, MIKEY.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, WE SHOWED HOW TO DO THAT IN OUTLOOK THE OTHER DAY.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, THIS IS --

>> Leo Laporte: SHOW HIM WHAT TO DO HERE.

>> Amber MacArthur: "MIKEY - CALL FOR HELP".

>> Leo Laporte: SO THIS WILL BE ADDED AT THE END OF EVERY MESSAGE --

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: -- THAT YOU SEND OUT AND THAT'S KIND OF A GOOD IDEA. CAN SAVE YOU A LOT OF TYPING. I USUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SIGNATURES, ONE FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT HAS MORE INFORMATION IN IT AND OTHERS FOR, YOU KNOW, STRANGERS.

>> Amber MacArthur: FOR STRANGERS! AND THEN YOU CAN, YOU CAN CHOOSE HERE, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ADD ANOTHER SIGNATURE AND YOU HAVE ALL YOUR DEFAULTS, YOU SEE RIGHT HERE IF YOU ADDED MORE, THEY WOULD BE LISTED HERE, YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: NOW YOU NOTICE THAT IN RANDOM ORDER, ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE THOSE SIGNATURES WHERE YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT QUOTES.

>> Mikey: QUOTES AND STUFF --

>> Leo Laporte: AND YOU CAN, AND YOU CAN, SO YOU CAN PUT A TON OF THEM IN THERE.

>> Amber MacArthur: SO THERE'S LOTS OF PERSONALISATION IN HERE, SO THIS IS GREAT IF YOU'RE USING YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNT FOR MORE THAN ONE PURPOSE. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR RULES IN HERE, SO THIS WORKS THE SAME AS OUTLOOK, AS WELL, SO YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH NEW RULES AND ADD RULES --

>> Mikey: FILTERING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, MOVING TO BOXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT?

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, THAT KIND OF STUFF, SO A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, IT'S THE SAME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE SAME FEATURES AS OUTLOOK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE, I FIND IT A LITTLE MORE FRIENDLY, THE INTERFACE IS FRIENDLIER.

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S VERY CLEAR, VERY SIMPLE.

>> Amber MacArthur: IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR, SO ONCE YOU GET SET UP AND YOU GET IT WORKING, I'M SURE YOU CAN PLAY AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND THERE'S MORE THAN THAT, EVEN, THERE'S COLOUR CODING FOR EMAILS COMING FROM CERTAIN PEOPLE AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF. YEAH, IT'S GREAT!

>> Leo Laporte: COMES WITH THE PROG -- THE OPERATING SYSTEM, SO IT'S NOT BAD. NOW THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER CHOICES, BY THE WAY, ON THE MAC PLATFORM, I USE A PROGRAM CALLED POWER MAIL FROM CTM DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS AMAZING POWER TOOL, THE PEOPLE WHO DO BARE BONES, BB EDIT, ALSO DO ONE CALLED MAIL SMITH, IT'S VERY, VERY POWERFUL. THOSE ARE FOR MORE HIGHER END USERS AND OF COURSE THERE'S ENTOURAGE. THERE ARE A LOT OF CHOICES ON THE MAC PLATFORM.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, DEFINITELY, SO YOU SHOULD START OUT WITH THIS AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN MOVE UP TO ENTOURAGE OR SOMETHING ELSE.

>> Leo Laporte: EXACTLY. FOR SHOW NOTES ON THIS MAC- STRAVAGANZA, WE'RE GONNA TO INDOCTRINATE HIM AND SHOW HIM MORE AND MORE TIPS AND IF YOU'VE NEVER USED A MAC, THIS IS A CHANCE FOR YOU TO SEE KIND OF HOW IT LOOKS DIFFERENT, IT'S NOT SO REALLY DIFFERENT AFTER ALL.

>> Amber MacArthur: IT'S NOT THAT DIFFERENT.

>> Leo Laporte: A COMPUTER'S A COMPUTER. GO TO callforhelptv.com. COMING UP NEXT, ANDY SHOWS US VARIOUS WI-FI CAMERAS, THESE ARE KIND OF FUN AND WE'LL INSTALL ONE AND TAKE PICTURES OF MIKEY.

>> Amber MacArthur: PERFECT, WITH HIS MAC!

>> Leo Laporte: WE'LL SEE IF HE'S STILL USING THAT MAC WHEN WE COME BACK, YOU STAY HERE.

>> YOU'VE GOT MAIL, BABY!

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, BABY!

>> Leo Laporte: WELCOME BACK TO CALL FOR HELP, IF YOU HAVE A WIRELESS HOME NETWORK, YOU CAN USE CAMERAS VIA THAT WIRELESS NETWORK FOR SECURITY, MAYBE A BABYCAM, A GOLDFISHCAM. JUST TO KEEP AN EYE ON PART OF THE HOUSE, I HAD A LISTENER OR VIEWER WHO CALLED IN, WAS GETTING GRAFFITI ARTISTS PAINTING ON THE SIDE OF THE WALL AND HE PUT A CAMERA RIGHT THERE TO CATCH HIM IN THE ACT. WE'RE GONNA GET THE CYBERWALKER TO GIVE US THE 411 ON THIS HOT TOPIC, SECURITY CAMS ARE ONE OF THE FASTEST-GROWING SEGMENTS RIGHT NOW --

>> Andy Walker: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: -- ON THE INTERNET CAMERAS.

>> Andy Walker: THEY ARE, IT'S AMAZING, ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE MOST USEFUL APPLICATIONS IN A HOME NETWORK, YOU KNOW, LET'S PLUG A CAMERA INTO IF AND LET'S TRANSMIT VIDEO ACROSS THE NETWORK, FOR SURE. I HAVE, I BROUGHT TWO TODAY.

>> Leo Laporte: NOW THIS IS ONE YOU'VE BEEN USING FOR OUR FANS WHO ARE WATCHING, KIND OF WATCHING THE SHOW IN THE BACKGROUND.

>> Andy Walker: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, THIS ACTUALLY SENDS A LOT OF PICTURES, LIKE ONE EVERY SECOND.

>> Andy Walker: THIS IS A -- YOU CAN SEND IT UP TO 30 FRAMES A SECOND WITH 20 CONNECTIONS.

>> Leo Laporte: SO THAT'S REAL TIME.

>> Andy Walker: SO ACTUALLY HAS A PHYSICAL, LIKE A WEB SERVER INSIDE THE THING AND IT BROADCASTS THE IMAGE OUT, YEAH, IT'S 640x480, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FULL SCREEN.

>> Leo Laporte: NOW DOES THIS BLUE LIGHT MEAN THAT IT'S ONLINE OR THIS IS THE DATA GOING OUT?

>> Andy Walker: SO THE BLUE LINE IS, IS THE CONNECTION --

>> Leo Laporte: SO THERE'S PEOPLE ACTUALLY WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW.

>> Andy Walker: THAT IS ACTUALLY -- THE CAMERA IS READY TO TRANSMIT, NOBODY'S CONNECTED TO IT, BUT YOU'LL SEE THE --

>> Leo Laporte: LEMME SEE THE LITTLE... LOOK AT. HELLO!

>> Andy Walker: YOU'LL SEE --

>> Leo Laporte: HEY!

>> Andy Walker: LET ME, LET ME, LET ME TURN ON THE, UH, TURN IT ON, SO YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY ACTUALLY CONNECTS TO IT.

>> Leo Laporte: THIS IS FROM AXIS.

>> Andy Walker: AXIS, YEAH, IT'S CALLED A 506W.

>> Leo Laporte: NOW YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A WIRE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PLUG IT IN.

>> Andy Walker: YEAH, POWER, UNFORTUNATELY.

>> Leo Laporte: THEY'RE ALL GONNA NEED THAT.

>> Andy Walker: THEY'RE ALL GONNA NEED THAT, BUT --

>> Leo Laporte: OH, LOOK, THERE IT IS!

>> Andy Walker: IF YOU PUNCH UP MY COMPUTER --

>> Leo Laporte: SO WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE IMAGE AS IT'S BEING BROADCAST, LET'S GET A PICTURE OF, OF AMBER, LET'S SEE WHERE SHE --

>> Andy Walker: CAMERA'S GETTING IN THE WAY.

>> Leo Laporte: (Muttering)

>> Andy Walker: YOU GOT A PICTURE OF MIKEY.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, SHE'S KIND OF OVER HERE, I'LL, I'LL LIFT IT UP AND GET A PICTURE. SO THIS IS KIND OF COOL, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT THIS ON A WALL, OR AS, AS WE'VE DONE, WE'VE PUT -- THERE SHE IS. WE'VE PUT IT ON THE, OVER ON THE SET BY AMBER AND PEOPLE CAN SEE US DOING THE SHOW.

>> Andy Walker: IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN SO BUSY THAT PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING THEY CAN'T GET ON, 'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY 20 POTENTIAL CONNECTIONS ON THAT DEVICE.

>> Leo Laporte: RIGHT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT, IT, IT'S A WEB SERVER ITSELF, I MEAN, IT CAN'T HANDLE MORE THAN 20 PROBABLY.

>> Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: LET'S GET A PICTURE OF MIKEY STANDING IN THE DARK. THIS IS KIND OF COOL, I'LL GET A PICTURE OF YOU AND WHAT'S NEAT IS IT, BECAUSE IT'S SENDING, HOW MANY FRAMES A SECOND IS THIS SENDING?

>> Andy Walker: RIGHT NOW IT'S SET FOR 20 FRAMES A SECOND.

>> Leo Laporte: SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, IT'S ALMOST FULL MOTION.

>> Andy Walker: YEAH. I MEAN, I TURNED IT DOWN, JUST SO THAT WE COULD IMPROVE THE BANDWIDTH COMING IN AND OUT OF THE STUDIO.

>> Leo Laporte: RIGHT.

>> Andy Walker: BUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE NEAT THINGS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CAMERA IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY ADJUST YOUR ROUTER TO ACTUALLY BROADCAST THAT ON THE INTERNET. SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS LOOKED AT THE IP ADDRESS ON OUR ROUTER HERE IN THE STUDIO, AND I'VE ALIASED IT TO cams.cyberwalker.com.

>> Leo Laporte: SO WHEN PEOPLE GO TO cams.cyberwalker.com, THEY IN FACT GET SENT TO THIS CAMERA.

>> Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: WHICH IS SERVING THEM THE IMAGES.

>> Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: WOW, THAT'S AMAZING.

>> Andy Walker: IT'S AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN THESE CAMERAS FIRST CAME OUT, THEY WERE REALLY BIG AND THEY RAN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, $600, $700.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>> Andy Walker: NOW THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE'S I THINK THE SMALLEST ON THE MARKET AS OF TODAY, IT RUNS ABOUT I THINK $350, 300, $300 U.S.

>> Leo Laporte: IT'D BE A GREAT SECURITY CAMERA, I MEAN, THE IMAGE, THE IMAGE SIZE IS BIG AND THE QUALITY IS VERY GOOD, YOU CAN REALLY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT. HAS SOME GREAT SETTINGS INSIDE IT, TOO.

>> Leo Laporte: NOW CAN I STEER THIS ON THE NET, CAN I SAY POINT OVER THERE, LOOK OVER THERE, I WANNA SEE SOMETHING OVER THERE?

>> Andy Walker: NO, YOU'RE STUCK WITH THE DIRECTION FROM THAT --

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY. SO YOU HAVE TO COME DOWNSTAIRS AND POINT IT.

>> Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT. HOWEVER, THERE IS --

>> Leo Laporte: THIS ONE YOU CAN STEER.

>> Andy Walker: THIS IS A, THIS IS A D-LINK CAMERA, IT'S CALLED THE DCS 5300W.

>> Leo Laporte: AND YOU STEER, AND YOU STEER IT WITH THESE THINGS HERE? ZZHH, ZZHH!

>> Andy Walker: LOOKS LIKE JOYSTICKS, DON'T THEY?

>> Leo Laporte: NO, THESE ARE THE ANTENNAS.

>> Andy Walker: BUT, SO THIS ONE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SET UP IN A SIMILAR MANNER, IT HAS AUDIO, TOO AND IT -- YOU -- THE CONTROLS ON THE WEB PAGE ACTUALLY ALLOW YOU TO MOVE IT, SO IF WE -- I'LL JUST SIMULATE IT, JUST TURN THE POWER OFF ON IT. 'CAUSE WHEN IT RESETS, IT ACTUALLY MOVES THE HEAD.

>> Leo Laporte: DOES A LITTLE THING?

>> Andy Walker: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: IT GIVES, IT GIVES IT A LITTLE WAKE-UP. SO IT GOES TO THE LEFT, GOES UP.

>> Leo Laporte: OOH!

>> Andy Walker: CALIBRATES ITSELF BASICALLY.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, I SEE, NOW WHEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY OVER -- WOW, THIS IS KIND OF NEAT. NOW YOU PAY A LITTLE MORE, I WOULD IMAGINE, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> Andy Walker: YEAH, IT'S ABOUT $100, $150 MORE --

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY, SO ABOUT 300.

>> Andy Walker: ABOUT 450, 500, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S COOL, THOUGH, LOOK AT THAT.

>> Andy Walker: YEAH, YEAH. THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS, IT HAS SOUND ON IT. SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY BROADCAST SOUND, AS WELL.

>> CAREFUL WITH MY ANTENNAS.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> Andy Walker: (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S VERY SENSITIVE.

>> Andy Walker: RELATIVELY EASY TO SET UP, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NETWORKING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANNA BROADCAST IT OUT ON THE INTERNET, YOU KINDA GOTTA UNDERSTAND DMZs AND PORTS --

>> Leo Laporte: TO GET IT THROUGH THE ROUTER.

>> Andy Walker: TO GET IT THROUGH THE ROUTER AND OUT ONTO THE INTERNET. AND OF COURSE, VERY, VERY SUBJECTIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF BANDWIDTH THAT YOU HAVE GOING OUT OF YOUR HOME --

>> Leo Laporte: RIGHT.

>> Andy Walker: YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT A MEGABIT COMING, MEGABYTE COMING, MEGABIT COMING IN AND ABOUT --

>> Leo Laporte: 128K GOING OUT, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY --

>> Andy Walker: IT'S ABOUT A TENTH OR A --

>> Leo Laporte: YOU COULD SATURATE YOUR CONNECTION PRETTY EASILY. YOU KNOW, BUT MOSTLY I THINK PEOPLE WILL USE THIS ON THEIR LAN, THEY WON'T SEND IT OUT ON THE INTERNET, BUT THEY'LL ACTUALLY USE IT ON THEIR --

>> Andy Walker: YEAH, YOU COULD USE IT AS A BABYCAM --

>> Leo Laporte: RIGHT, I'M JUST IN THE OTHER ROOM AND I'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS. (Dial tone)

>> Leo Laporte: HELLO? (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S ALSO A FINE PHONE!

>> Andy Walker: THAT'S RIGHT, HELLO, HELLO, HI, HELLO, MUM. SO, YEAH, I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE APPLICATIONS, I THINK ULTIMATELY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS YOU'LL GET PLUG AND PLAY, A LOT OF THESE, THEY SUPPORT WHAT'S CALLED UPnP. I THINK YOU WILL GET A GENERATION, PROBABLY IN ABOUT A YEAR, MAYBE TWO, WHERE YOU PLUG IT IN, IT JUST WORKS.

>> Leo Laporte: AND I SAY, WOW, I SEE IT, YEAH.

>> Andy Walker: THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING VERSIONS WITH BATTERIES, SO THERE'S ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY WIRELESS, AGAIN, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM THERE 'CAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA REPLACE THE BATTERY, YOU'RE REDUCED IN TERMS OF --

>> Leo Laporte: WELL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A LIGHT, I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE SECURITY LIGHTS ON THE WALL AND THEY GIVE IT POWER, THAT'S NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL, IT'S THE NETWORKING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED TO ADD. SO YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE POWER ON THERE, IN FACT, YOU COULD JUST REPLACE ONE OF YOUR LIGHTS WITH, WITH A, WITH A THIS.

>> Andy Walker: THERE IS ACTUALLY LIKE SOME SORT OF SECURITY CONNECTOR AT THE BACK FOR SECURITY SYSTEMS. I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY INSTALLED --

>> Leo Laporte: SO IF YOU HAD A MORE ELABORATE SECURITY SYSTEM, LIKE BURGLAR ALARM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT --

>> Andy Walker: AND IT COULD BE POWERED OFF OF THAT, I, I SUSPECT. SO, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE 640x480 OR 320x, WHAT'S THE MATH THERE, 240, TYPE OF RESOLUTIONS, SO IT'S FULL SCREEN ON A MONITOR, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET HIGH RESOLUTION MEGAPIXEL, YOU KNOW, IMAGES OFF THIS IF YOU DECIDE -- ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE FUN THINGS ABOUT THE, THE AXIS CAMERA IS THAT IT HAS A SCREEN CAPTURE BUTTON.

>> Leo Laporte: ON THE, ON THE SOFTWARE.

>> Andy Walker: ON THE SOFTWARE, SO YOU CAN GO CLICK, YOU GET A FRAME, YOU CAN RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE THAT AND IN FACT, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING ON LEOVILLE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SCRATCHING YOURSELVES A LOT --

>> Leo Laporte: THEY WERE FUNNY PICTURES.

>> Andy Walker: -- YOU KNOW, IT WAS EMBARRASSING, BUT ANYWAY.

>> Leo Laporte: VERY COOL, WIRELESS CAMERAS, THEY'RE ALL THE RAGE NOW, YOU SEE 'EM ALL OVER THE PLACE, THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THE MODELS.

>> Leo Laporte: IF YOU WANT LINKS TO THOSE PRODUCTS OR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT 'EM, GO TO callforhelptv.com. ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS CALL FOR HELP. IT'S TIME TO TUNE INTO THE TECH TUNE OF A DIFFERENT COLOUR. ANOTHER CALL FOR HELP RIGHT AFTER THIS BREAK, BUT FIRST, IT'S OUR CALL FOR HELP QUIZ. YOU READY TO DO IT?

>> Andy Walker: YES.

>> Leo Laporte: ALL RIGHT, HERE'S OUR QUESTION OF THE DAY. WHERE DOES WINDOWS STORE CONFIGURATION SETTINGS? NOW YOU BETTER KNOW THIS, 'CAUSE WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME, OF COURSE IT STORES THEM IN THE REGISTRY, THE CD-ROM, EXCEL OR WITH ITS CACHE? I STORE EVERYTHING WITH MY CACHE RIGHT HERE IN MY WALLET. YOU GET TO THE WEB SITE AND GIVE US YOUR ANSWER, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT WHEN CALL FOR HELP CONTINUES.

>> Leo Laporte: HELLO, HOW ARE YOU, WELCOME BACK TO CALL FOR HELP, READY TO TACKLE A TOUGH QUESTION! LET'S SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING HERE, AMBER, YOU GOT SOMEBODY ON THE LINE?

>> Amber MacArthur: YUP, WE DO, WE HAVE SHELLY FROM VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA.

>> Leo Laporte: \M HELLO, SHELLY \M

>> Shelly: HI, LEO.

>> Leo Laporte: \M WELL, HELLO, SHELLY \M

>> (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

>> Shelly: I'M GREAT, IT'S SO GOOD TO TALK TO YOU!

>> Leo Laporte: OH, I'M MY HONOUR, I'M THRILLED TO TALK TO YOU.

>> Shelly: I HOPE YOU CAN SOLVE THIS ISSUE.

>> Leo Laporte: UH-OH. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

>> Shelly: I HAVE A LITTLE MINI DISC PLAYER THAT I CAN'T SEEM TO GET THE SOFTWARE TO WORK, I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER VIEWERS OUT THERE ASSUMING IT'S THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THEIR SITUATION, TOO.

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S THE SONY SOFTWARE, ISN'T IT?

>> Shelly: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: JUST MAKES YOU CRAZY.

>> Shelly: IT DOES AND I WISH I HAD READ ALL THE POSTS ON THE INTERNET BEFORE I BOUGHT IT.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, WELL, I LIKE M.D. PLAYERS IN MANY WAYS, THEY'RE VERY COOL, THIS IS ONE OF THEM, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE, THIS IS NOT A NET -- YOU HAVE A NET M.D. OR YOU HAVE THIS NEW HIGH SPEED M.D.?

>> Shelly: NO, I HAVE A NET M.D.

>> Leo Laporte: NET M.D.

>> Shelly: IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE OLD.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH. THEY NOW HAVE A NEW SUPER HIGH SPEED USB2 M.D., BUT THE WHOLE IDEA OF THIS IS THESE RECORD ON LITTLE DISKS, THEY'RE LIKE FLOPPY DISKS, AND IT'S NEAT BECAUSE YOU CAN GET A BUNCH OF SONGS ON ONE DISC AND YOU CAN CARRY WITH YOU A BUNCH OF DISKS. THEY RECORD. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SONY'S, SONY'S WAY OF CREATING, YOU KNOW, IT'S OWN KIND OF MP3 PLAYER AND AS USUALLY SONY -- AS USUAL, SONY DOES IT ITS OWN WAY. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU'RE STUCK WITH THE SONY SOFTWARE, I'M GONNA SEND YOU TO A SITE CALLED "NET MD TOPICS", IT'S FROM minidisc.com.

>> Shelly: OKAY.

>> Leo Laporte: AND THEY HAVE AN FAQ ON NET M.D. SOFTWARE PACKAGES AND THE REAL PROBLEM IS THAT BECAUSE NET MD IS PROPRIETARY AND THE USB CONNECTION TO NET MD IS PROPRIETARY, THERE'S NO WAY SOMEBODY CAN WRITE THEIR OWN SOFTWARE. THERE'S SONIC STAGE, WHICH COMES WITH SONY, THERE'S OPEN MG JUKEBOX, WHICH ONE DO YOU HAVE?

>> Shelly: I HAVE THAT, EXACTLY, SONIC STAGE --

>> Leo Laporte: SONIC STAGE, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE NEWER OF THE TWO.

>> Shelly: I'VE UPGRADED, YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH. AND THEN THERE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER COMPANIES LIKE PANASONIC AND KENWOOD MAKE THEIR OWN, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA WORK WITH YOUR SONY PLAYER ANYWAY, EVEN THOSE ARE M.D. PLAYERS.

>> Shelly: OKAY.

>> Leo Laporte: AND THE PROBLEM IS AND HERE'S THE NON-COMMERCIAL OPTIONS AND RIGHT HERE IT SAYS, NOTE THAT NONE OF THE NON- COMMERCIAL PACKAGES PROVIDE HIGH SPEED DOWNLOADING FROM A P.C. OR MAC BECAUSE OF THE SECURE D.R.M., DIGITAL RIGHTS MANAGEMENT, OF THE NET M.D. PROTOCOL. NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T USE SOME OTHER SOFTWARE, JUST MEANS YOU WON'T GET THE HIGH SPEED NET M.D. COPYING, YOU'LL HAVE TO COPY IN REAL TIME.

>> Shelly: I COULD EVEN LIVE \A

>> Leo Laporte: OH, GOOD, ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL PUT THIS LINK IN THE SHOW -- THAT'S PRETTY PATHETIC, ISN'T IT? THIS IS -- THAT'S -- THIS -- THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, THERE'S AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT FOR UNIX, LINUX AND MAC, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON WINDOWS, THOUGH, RIGHT?

>> Shelly: RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: WELL THEN, YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS CALLED "WIN NETMD" AND IT DOES ALLOW REAL-TIME UPLOADING FROM NET M.D. EQUIPMENT TO P.C., REAL TIME MEANS IF IT'S A THREE MINUTE SONG, IT TAKES THREE MINUTES.

>> Shelly: RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY, SO THERE ARE SOME OTHER PROGRAMS, HERE'S ONE THAT WORKS WITH NERO CALLED "SIMPLERMD" AND IT AUTOMATES THE NERO SIMPLEBURNER ROUTE, SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS, THERE ARE SOME THINGS OUT THERE.

>> Leo Laporte: IF YOU GO TO minidisc.org AND LOOK AT THE NET MD FAQ, THEY'LL HAVE LINKS TO SOME OF THESE OTHER PROGRAMS, SO YOU DO HAVE SOME CHOICES, AS LONG AS YOU'RE WILLING, YOU KNOW, TO DO BASICALLY WHAT IS, IN EFFECT, ANALOGUE COPYING INSTEAD OF THE HIGH SPEED USB COPYING, DIGITAL COPYING.

>> Shelly:\A

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, SO THIS IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.

>> Shelly: IT IS, THANK YOU.

>> Leo Laporte: AND I, AND I'M SYMPATHETIC, IF YOU GO ON THE WEB SITES AND YOU SEE, THERE IS A LOT OF SONY NET M.D. OWNERS WHO ARE JUST REALLY UNHAPPY WITH SONIC STAGE.

>> Shelly: AND I'M, I HAVE TO SAY, I'M ONE OF THEM.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>> Shelly: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: TOO BAD, BECAUSE IT'S A, THE PRODUCT'S A GREAT PRODUCT, SONY'S KEPT IT ALIVE THROUGH KIND OF THE VICISSITUDES, THE UPS AND DOWNS OF, OF FORTUNE, I MEAN AND NOW THEY'RE PUTTING MP3 ON IT, SO, YOU KNOW, IN TIME, THIS MAY END UP BEING A, A FORMAT THAT REALLY LASTS A LONG TIME, BUT WE'VE GOT IT -- AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH PROPRIETARY CLOSED SOLUTIONS THAT ONLY ONE COMPANY OWNS, THERE'S NO DEVELOPERS COMMUNITY, SO NOBODY ELSE IS DOING IT.

>> Shelly: RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: AND YOU'RE STUCK WITH WHAT SONY DOES.

>> Shelly: I REALLY LIKE THE MACHINE, IT'S JUST, AS YOU SAY, THE SOFTWARE HASN'T BEEN GREAT.

>> Leo Laporte: GREAT MACHINE, LOVE IT. WELL, I'M SORRY YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH IT, AT LEAST THERE'S A FEW PLACES YOU CAN TRY.

>> Shelly: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Leo Laporte: I THANK YOU, IT'S GREAT TO TALK TO YOU, SHELLY.

>> Shelly: THANK YOU.

>> Leo Laporte: SEE YOU LATER.

>> Shelly: BYE.

>> Leo Laporte: COMING UP NEXT, I'M SO GLAD TO HAVE HIM BACK, HE USED TO JOIN US ALL THE TIME IN SAN FRANCISCO AT CALL FOR HELP VERSION 1.0, BUT JOHNNY JET HAS FLOWN ALL THE WAY UP HERE TO THE BIG SMOKE TO SHARE HIS SECRETS ON GETTING THE LOWEST PRICES ON AIRFARE, HOTEL ROOMS, CAR RENTALS AND LAST- MINUTE GETAWAYS. IF YOU'RE INTO TRAVELLING AND YOU WANNA DO IT ON WITH YOUR ONLINE SITES, JOHNNY JET'S HERE TO DO IT. WE'RE GONNA TALK TO HIM IN JUST A BIT. DON'T GO AWAY.

>> Leo Laporte: WHETHER YOU TRAVEL FIVE DAYS A WEEK OR ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS, JOHNNY JET CAN SAVE YOU MONEY, JOHNNY JET'S ON THE GO, ALL THE WAY UP HERE, WE'RE SO GLAD HE CAME UP TO TORONTO TO GAVE US HIS TOP TIPS FOR TRAVELLING. HE'S THE AUTHOR OF, OF COURSE, THIS GREAT BOOK, YOU ARE HERE: TRAVELLING WITH JOHNNY JET AND johnnyjet.com IS HIS WEB SITE. I GUESS YOU WERE A FREQUENT FLYER YOURSELF IN YOUR, IN YOUR OTHER LIFE.

>> Johnny Jet: OH YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: AND BECAME AN EXPERT TRAVELLER JUST OUT OF SELF-DEFENCE.

>> Johnny Jet: THAT'S WHY I DID IT. I WAS SO SICK AND TIRED OF SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE BUS, MIDDLE SEAT, HAVING THE WORST FOOD.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S ME, THAT'S MY LIFE STORY!

>> Johnny Jet: AND WATCHING THESE GUYS CRUISE RIGHT BY ME, NO LINE.

>> Leo Laporte: THERE ARE SECRETS, AREN'T THERE?

>> Johnny Jet: OH YEAH, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PHONE NUMBER TO CALL.

>> Leo Laporte: WHOOPS.

>> Johnny Jet: THERE GOES THE BOOK.

>> Leo Laporte: YUP. (Laughing) IT'S A GOOD BOOK FOR DROPPING, 'CAUSE IT'S NICE AND SOLID. SO LEMME, LEMME ASK YOU, THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME DOING A T.V. SHOW UP HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS USED TO DO IT WITH US DOWN IN THE STATES. YOU'VE HAD A LOOK AT DIFFERENT SITES A LITTLE BIT, IT'S BEEN A -- BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T JUST USE THE U.S. SITES FOR TRAVELLING.

>> Johnny Jet: YUP.

>> Leo Laporte: HAS IT BEEN DIFFERENT?

>> Johnny Jet: I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WHEN I AGREED TO THIS.

>> Johnny Jet: I SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, IT'S A REALLY DIFFERENT --

>> Leo Laporte: I'M SORRY.

>> Johnny Jet: IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SYSTEM.

>> Leo Laporte: I'M SORRY, WELL, LET'S FIRST SHOW YOUR SITE, BECAUSE THAT STILL WORKS, RIGHT, johnnyjet.com.

>> Johnny Jet: OH, YEAH, johnnyjet.com DEFINITELY WORKS AND WE ACTUALLY, SINCE THE LAST TIME I'VE BEEN ON IT, WE ADDED A COUPLE OF NEW SEARCH BOXES, ONE'S A FLIGHT SEARCH. BUT FOR CANADA, IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK TOO WELL.

>> Leo Laporte: BECAUSE IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU U.S. SITES.

>> Johnny Jet: SO FOR CANADA, YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO GO INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL WEB SITE.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>> Johnny Jet: WHICH I HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF THEM AND --

>> Leo Laporte: YOU DO HAVE LOTS OF LINKS, BEFORE I BUY AIR TICKETS, I ALWAYS GO TO johnnyjet.com, YEAH, 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING FOR THOSE DEALS.

>> Johnny Jet: WELL, THAT'S HOW WE STAY ALIVE.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, I'M LOOKING FOR THOSE DEALS.

>> Johnny Jet: BUT THE HOTEL SEARCHES, YOU CAN PUT IN THE CITY AND --

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'LL WORK.

>> Johnny Jet: WHICH IS GREAT ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU GO TO ONE OF THESE TRAVEL PROVIDERS, YOU NEED TO PUT IN THE DATES AND THE CITIES.

>> Leo Laporte: I HATE THAT.

>> Johnny Jet: IT'S SUCH A PAIN.

>> Leo Laporte: SO THIS DOES IT FOR ONE --

>> Johnny Jet: THIS DOES IT FOR ONE AND THE NEXT SCREEN WILL BE 11 DIFFERENT PROVIDERS.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, LET'S DO IT, I JUST WANNA SEE --

>> Johnny Jet: OKAY, SO LET'S JUST TRY --

>> Leo Laporte: I'M GONNA BE BACK IN TORONTO NOVEMBER, WHEN IS OUR NEXT --

>> Andy Walker: 16th.

>> Leo Laporte: 16th?

>> Johnny Jet: NOVEMBER 16th.

>> Andy Walker: YOU'LL BE HERE ON THE 15th, NIGHT OF THE 15th.

>> Leo Laporte: 15th THROUGH THE 19th.

>> Johnny Jet: OH, I JUST PUT THE 16th, SO LET'S JUST TRY THAT. LET'S JUST TRY THAT.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY, LET'S TRY THAT.

>> Johnny Jet: SO THEN YOU HIT "SEARCH".

>> Leo Laporte: AND SO NOW THAT'S GONNA SHOW ME ALL THE HOTELS, BUT IT'S NOT JUST ONE SITE, IT'S ALL THE SITES.

>> Johnny Jet: CORRECT, WITH 11 -- LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT SITES.

>> Leo Laporte: TRAVELOCITY, ORBITZ, hotels.com.

>> Johnny Jet: NOW, IF YOU'RE ON A HIGH SPEED, YOU CAN CLICK 'EM ALL AND THEN HIT CHECK AND IT'LL JUST BE A BOMBARDMENT.

>> Leo Laporte: DOES IT COMPARE THEM ALL?

>> Johnny Jet: IT DOES, BUT IF I DO IT NOW, I'M GONNA RUIN EVERYTHING I JUST SET UP.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY, DON'T DO THAT, BUT WE NOW KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO THAT, THAT'S GREAT.

>> Johnny Jet: I, I DID IT LAST NIGHT AND THAT FOR A HOTEL DOWN BY THE SKYDOME.

>> Leo Laporte: HE STAYED AT THE NICEST HOTEL IN TOWN! WHICH I DON'T STAY AT, 'CAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE! HOLY COW, YOU STAYED AT THE BEAUTIFUL FAIRMONT.

>> Johnny Jet: FAIRMONT.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>> Johnny Jet: THAT'S REALLY NICE.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, IT'S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL.

>> Johnny Jet: AND THEY GAVE ME A SUITE.

>> Leo Laporte: YOU GOT A SUITE? I'M NOT GONNA ASK HIM HOW MUCH HE PAID. I BET HE PAID LESS THAN I'M PAYING.

>> Johnny Jet: I'M PAYING CHEAP.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>> Johnny Jet: BUT ANYWAY, I'M TRIED A HOTEL SEARCH FOR TORONTO, DID THE SKYDOME, THERE'S A RED SOX --

>> Leo Laporte: SO YOU WANTED, 'CAUSE YOU WANTED TO BE IN THE AREA, OH, THE RED SOX.

>> Johnny Jet: I JUST TRIED IT OUT BECAUSE --

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S FAMOUS, THAT HOTEL THERE. YEAH, IT OVERLOOKS THE FIELD.

>> Johnny Jet: YOU CAN WATCH THE BALLPARK.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH!

>> Johnny Jet: ANYWAY, THE PRICES VARY FROM, FROM 199 ON hotels.com, TRAVELOCITY, 162, ORBITZ, 162. BUT THERE WAS ONE ON THIS HERE, CLICK INTERNATIONAL, $97.

>> Leo Laporte: SO THERE YOU GO AND THAT'S --

>> Johnny Jet: -- ABOUT HALF.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S THE KEY TO ALL OF THIS IS THAT THE SAME PERSON THAT'S SITTING NEXT TO YOU ON THE AIRLINE, SAME FLIGHT, SAME DESTINATION MAY BE PAYING A QUARTER OF WHAT YOU PAY. SAME THING IN A HOTEL. AND YOU JUST GOTTA KNOW THESE SECRETS.

>> Johnny Jet: IT JUST DRIVES ME NUTS.

>> Leo Laporte: SHOW US SOME SECRETS.

>> Johnny Jet: OKAY, SO HERE ARE SOME MORE SECRETS.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>> Johnny Jet: LET'S GET OUT OF THIS. OKAY. SO HERE'S, HERE'S THE FLIGHT I WAS TRYING TO DO, TORONTO TO LOS ANGELES.

>> Leo Laporte: expedia.ca.

>> Johnny Jet: expedia.ca, THERE'S travelocity.ca, destina.ca, itravel2000.com.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>> Johnny Jet: travelcuts.com, THESE ARE ALL CANADIAN WEB SITES.

>> Leo Laporte: RIGHT.

>> Johnny Jet: ANYWAY, SO HERE'S THE EXPEDIA ONE, IT SAYS 434, THE LOWEST.

>> Leo Laporte: RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> Johnny Jet: YOU DOWNLOAD SIDESTEP, YOU CAN GO TO johnnyjet.com, WE HAVE A LINK R RIGHT TO IT --

>> Leo Laporte: THIS IS A FREE PROGRAM?

>> Johnny Jet: IT'S A FREE PROGRAM, IT TAKES TWO MINUTES TO DOWNLOAD, IT DOES NOT WORK ON MACS.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY. BUT IT DOES KNOW WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW, SO WHAT IT'S GONNA DO IS LOOK AT THE FIELDS ON THE EXPEDIA SITE AND FIND OTHER PRICES, OTHER VENDORS?

>> Johnny Jet: EXACTLY, ALL OVER THE WORLD.

>> Leo Laporte: I KEEP FORGETTING TO USE THIS.

>> Johnny Jet: AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOW CONNECTION, BUT I JUST DID IT A MINUTE AGO AND IT CAME UP TO 325.

>> Leo Laporte: SO YOU GOT, YOU GOT OVER 100 BUCKS OFF.

>> Johnny Jet: OH YEAH!

>> Leo Laporte: BY JUST DOING THAT LITTLE SIDESTEP.

>> Johnny Jet: WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS SINCE IT'S WORKING.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA SEARCH, LET'S SHOW SOME OTHER THINGS.

>> Johnny Jet: HERE'S A WEB SITE, A GREAT WEB SITE FOR IF YOU'RE A CANADIAN OR AMERICAN.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>> Johnny Jet: smarterliving.com.

>> Leo Laporte: smarterliving.com.

>> Johnny Jet: ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A LINK RIGHT ON THE HOME PAGE TO IT, RIGHT AT THE TOP. IT'S TO SEARCH LAST MINUTE WEEKEND FARES.

>> Leo Laporte: SEE THAT'S -- YOU GET A GOOD DEAL BECAUSE THOSE UNSOLD SEATS ARE WORTHLESS TO THE AIRLINES.

>> Johnny Jet: RIGHT, BUT IF YOU NEED TO GO TO A PLACE.

>> Leo Laporte: AND YOU GOTTA GO NOW.

>> Johnny Jet: IT'S GOOD, BUT IF YOU KNOW WAY IN ADVANCE, YOU DON'T WANNA WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE.

>> Leo Laporte: SO IS THIS BETTER FOR, THIS IS LAST MINUTE?

>> Johnny Jet: YEAH, SO THIS IS -- LET'S SAY YOU WANNA GO THIS WEEKEND TO CHICAGO.

>> Leo Laporte: YES, I DO.

>> Johnny Jet: FROM TORONTO.

>> Leo Laporte: I DO.

>> Johnny Jet: $106 ROUND TRIP.

>> Leo Laporte: NOW THAT'S A GOOD DEAL, RIGHT?

>> Johnny Jet: THAT'S AN AMAZING DEAL. I JUST PRICED IT OUT FOR A NORMAL TICKET WAS LIKE 400 FROM TORONTO.

>> Leo Laporte: WOW!

>> Johnny Jet: SO AND THAT'S ROUND TRIP AND THAT'S ON AMERICAN.

>> Leo Laporte: ONE THING I'VE NOTICED, THE AIRLINES REALLY GIVE YOU BETTER DEALS IF YOU ARE WILLING TO GO THROUGH THEIR HUB CITIES THAN IF YOU'RE GOING DIRECT, RIGHT? NOWADAYS THEY WANT YOU TO GO --

>> Johnny Jet: THERE'S A LOT OF LOW FARE CARRIERS NOW. CANADA HAS WESTJET.

>> Leo Laporte: WESTJET'S CHEAP, YEAH.

>> Johnny Jet: AND JETSGO.

>> Leo Laporte: AND WE HAVE JET BLUE IN THE STATES.

>> Johnny Jet: OH YEAH AND SOUTHWEST.

>> Leo Laporte: THOSE ARE REALLY -- AND SOUTHWEST IS PROFITABLE.

>> Johnny Jet: AND SONG, SONG IS DELTA'S NEW CARRIER, I RODE THAT LAST WEEK.

>> Leo Laporte: HOW'S SONG, DID YOU LIKE IT?

>> Johnny Jet: I REALLY LIKED IT. I FLEW FROM NEW YORK TO FLORIDA A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, IT WAS $59 ONE WAY.

>> Leo Laporte: IS, IS, IS TED, UNITED'S NEW AIRLINE, IS THAT A LOW FARE AIRLINE, ALSO?

>> Johnny Jet: IT IS, TOO, I'VE BEEN ON TED AND IT'S, IT'S NICE, THEY HAVE NEW PLANES, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM.

>> Leo Laporte: THE AMENITIES AREN'T THERE.

>> Johnny Jet: LIKE JET BLUE AND SONG HAVE REALLY NICE LIVE T.V.

>> Leo Laporte: T.V. IN YOUR SEAT, I LOVE THAT.

>> Johnny Jet: IT'S FREE, IT'S FREE.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, YEAH.

>> Johnny Jet: I MEAN, THERE ARE SO MANY LOW-FARE CARRIERS AROUND THE WORLD, EVEN ASIA JUST STARTED GETTING A LOT OF GOOD ONES.

>> Leo Laporte: SO THERE'S, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SUCCESS OF COMPANIES LIKE SOUTHWEST AND JET BLUE AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS, THERE'S, THERE'S A MODEL HERE THAT WE CAN FOLLOW AND THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S GOOD FOR US AS TRAVELLERS.

>> Johnny Jet: IT IS GOOD, IT'S GOOD FOR --

>> Leo Laporte: GIVES US MUCH MORE VARIETY.

>> Johnny Jet: SOME OF THESE ARE GOING UNDER, TOO, LIKE INDEPENDENCE AIR JUST STARTED IN THE U.S.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, THAT'S NOT GOOD.

>> Johnny Jet: AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROBABLY GONNA FILE FOR BANKRUPTCY.

>> Leo Laporte: YOU GOTTA CHARGE ENOUGH TO MAKE MONEY.

>> Johnny Jet: BUT HERE'S SOME SALE FARE FOR THIS WEEKEND TO, FROM VANCOUVER TO LIKE SAN DIEGO, 189.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S GREAT.

>> Johnny Jet: THAT'S A GREAT DEAL.

>> Leo Laporte: AND RIGHT ABOUT NOW, PEOPLE IN VANCOUVER ARE THINKING, SAN DIEGO'S SOUNDING AWFUL NICE.

>> Leo Laporte: AWFUL NICE.

>> Johnny Jet: SO LET'S SAY YOU WANNA CHECK OUT A HOTEL.

>> Leo Laporte: THIS IS YOUR HOTEL WHERE YOU ARE TODAY, THE FAIRMONT --

>> Johnny Jet: THIS IS THE FAIRMONT ROYAL YORK, SO I WENT ONLINE TO tripadvisor.com.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>> Johnny Jet: TO SEE WHAT THE REVIEWS WERE, TO FIND OUT IF IT'S A GOOD PLACE.

>> Leo Laporte: UH, YES.

>> Johnny Jet: AND THIS IS, THIS HAS LIKE SUPPOSEDLY UNBIASED REVIEWS FROM LIKE 5,000 DIFFERENT USERS.

>> Leo Laporte: AND THEY SEEM TO LIKE IT.

>> Johnny Jet: THEY REALLY LIKE IT, LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT FIVE STARS.

>> Leo Laporte: LOTS OF FIVE STARS, YEAH.

>> Johnny Jet: SO THIS IS A GOOD ONE TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ON THE HOTELS THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO TO.

>> Leo Laporte: ACTUALLY I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT, THANKS TO YOU, AND I -- AND IT'S SAVED ME A LOT OF TROUBLE, 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T GONE TO THE BAD ONES. ONLY GO TO THE GOOD ONES.

>> Johnny Jet: HERE'S A FUN SITE.

>> Leo Laporte: WHAT'S -- OH, AIRLINE MEALS!

>> Johnny Jet: airlinemeals.net.

>> Leo Laporte: THERE'S NOTHING FUN ABOUT AIRLINE MEALS, JOHNNY!

>> Johnny Jet: YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS GUY IS FROM, HE'S FROM HOLLAND AND HE TOOK A PICTURE OF HIS --

>> Leo Laporte: LOOK AT THAT!

>> Johnny Jet: HE TOOK A PICTURE OF HIS MEAL ON A FLIGHT TO SHOW HIS MOM AND EVERYONE WAS FASCINATED, SO HE DECIDED TO ASK ALL THESE PEOPLE.

>> Leo Laporte: AND THEY SENT IT -- YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA DO THIS --

>> Johnny Jet: EVERY AIRLINE IN THE WORLD AND THERE'S OVER 4,000 PICTURES RIGHT NOW.

>> Leo Laporte: (Laughing)

>> Johnny Jet: I'VE EVEN SUBMITTED PICTURES.

>> Leo Laporte: REALLY.

>> Johnny Jet: SO YOU CAN CHECK OUT ALL DIFFERENT --

>> Leo Laporte: LOOK AT THAT, IT'S TERRIBLE!

>> Johnny Jet: AIR FRANCE, THIS IS AIR CHINA.

>> Leo Laporte: WHAT IS THAT, AIR BULGARIA?

>> Johnny Jet: LOOK AT AIR FRANCE, THIS IS AIR FRANCE, LOOK.

>> Leo Laporte: OH NOW, AIR FRANCE, YOU GET A CROISSANT. (All talking at once)

>> Leo Laporte: OH, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT'S GOOD, NOW THESE ARE NORMAL, FIRST CLASS?

>> Johnny Jet: NO, ALL -- IT SAYS WHAT THEY ARE.

>> Leo Laporte: SO SOME OF THEM ARE, ARE CABIN CLASS.

>> Johnny Jet: THIS WAS ECONOMY CLASS.

>> Leo Laporte: ECONOMY. WOW.

>> Johnny Jet: SO IT GIVES A RATING.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, LOOK AT THAT! NO, THAT'S FIRST CLASS, BABY.

>> Johnny Jet: YEAH, THAT'S UPGRADE.

>> Leo Laporte: LOOK AT THAT. HOLY COW.

>> Johnny Jet: THAT'S BUSINESS CLASS.

>> Leo Laporte: BUSINESS.

>> Johnny Jet: SO THIS IS --

>> Leo Laporte: HE PAID FOR THAT MEAL, THOUGH, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

>> Johnny Jet: BUT THIS IS, THIS IS FROM USERS AROUND THE WORLD, IT'S NOT HIM.

>> Leo Laporte: airlinemeals.net.

>> Johnny Jet: airlinemeals.net, YOU CAN SUBMIT ANYTHING YOU WANT.

>> Leo Laporte: NOW DO THEY SAY WHAT THE BEST FOOD IS, WHAT DO YOU SAY? WHAT'S THE BEST AIRLINE FOOD?

>> Johnny Jet: WELL, I TOOK SINGAPORE AIRLINES THIS SUMMER.

>> Leo Laporte: SINGAPORE AIRLINES.

>> Johnny Jet: I WAS ON THE VERY FIRST FLIGHT FROM SINGAPORE TO NEWARK, NON-STOP, 18« HOURS, WE GOT SERVED FOUR MEALS.

>> Leo Laporte: THE WORLD'S LONGEST FLIGHT.

>> Johnny Jet: WORLD'S LONGEST FLIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: COMMERCIAL NON- STOP FLIGHT, 18« HOURS?

>> Johnny Jet: I WAS A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS, 'CAUSE --

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S A LONG TIME.

>> Johnny Jet: -- IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. I WAS LIKE --

>> Leo Laporte: YOU THOUGHT THE PLANE MIGHT RUN OUT OF GAS?

>> Johnny Jet: -- YOU SURE YOU GOT ENOUGH FUEL?

>> Leo Laporte: (Laughing) YOU MADE IT, THOUGH.

>> Johnny Jet: I SAT NEXT TO A PILOT AND HE, HE ASSURED ME.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S WILD.

>> Johnny Jet: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: NOW IF YOU'RE GONNA GO ON A FLIGHT THAT LONG, DO YOU GET UP AND WALK AROUND, WHAT DO YOU DO?

>> Johnny Jet: YOU SHOULD GET UP EVERY HOUR OR TWO.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, 'CAUSE OTHERWISE.

>> Johnny Jet: DEFINITELY DRINK LOTS OF WATER, EIGHT OUNCES EVERY --

>> Leo Laporte: -- OR SOMETHING, YEAH, YEAH.

>> Johnny Jet: -- EVERY HOUR.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>> Johnny Jet: BUT THE FOOD IS AWESOME --

>> Leo Laporte: HOW MANY MILES A YEAR DO YOU FLY NOW?

>> Johnny Jet: I FLY A LOT.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>> Johnny Jet: IT'S, IT'S --

>> Leo Laporte: UNCOUNTED NUMBERS OF MILES.

>> Johnny Jet: IT'S A LOT. IT'S LIKE 150,000.

>> Leo Laporte: JOHNNY JET IS THE GUY, 150,000 MILES A YEAR AND HE'S STILL WALKING AROUND, HOW DOES HE DO IT, I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS THE BOOK, IF YOU WANNA, YOU KNOW, KNOW MORE ABOUT GETTING THE BEST TRAVEL DEALS, YOU ARE HERE: TRAVELLING \A

>> Johnny Jet: WE'RE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.

>> Leo Laporte: JOHNNY, I WANNA THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING UP HERE. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T PAY ANYTHING FOR THE AIRFARE, THOUGH, SO IT'S OKAY.

>> Johnny Jet: I DID.

>> Leo Laporte: DID YOU? YOU HAD TO BUY YOUR TICKET?

>> Johnny Jet: IT WAS CHEAP.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY. (Laughing) HEY, DON'T GO AWAY, FOLKS, ONE MORE CHANCE TO ANSWER OUR QUIZ QUESTION OF THE DAY, WHICH IS, WHERE DOES WINDOWS STICK THOSE CONFIGURATION SETTINGS, IS IT, IS IT PUTTING THEM IN THE REGISTRY, THE CD-ROM, EXCEL, OR DOES IT KEEP IT, AS I DO, IN ITS POCKET WITH ITS CACHE?

>> Leo Laporte: GO TO THE WEB SITE, GIVE US THE ANSWER, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT WHEN CALL FOR HELP CONTINUES. (Jet engine)

>> Leo Laporte: BEFORE THE BREAK, WE ASKED YOU WHERE DOES WINDOWS STORE ITS CONFIGURATION SETTINGS? WELL OF COURSE YOU KNOW BY NOW, IT'S IN THE REGISTRY. GET TO THE WEB SITE, GIVE US THE ANSWER, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT WHEN CALL FOR HELP CONTINUES. CAPTAIN, I CAN'T GET ANY MORE POWER OUT OF HER! (Beeping)

>> Leo Laporte: SCOTTY!

>> I'VE SEEN A PART OF MYSELF NO MAN SHOULD EVER SEE.

>> Leo Laporte: OH MY GOSH! HERE WE ARE NOW, LET'S GET GOING, ANOTHER CALL FOR HELP ON THE LINE, I BELIEVE, AMBER, WHERE SHOULD WE STICK OUR PIN THIS TIME?

>> Amber MacArthur: WE HAVE JILL FROM KAMLOOPS, BRITISH COLUMBIA.

>> Leo Laporte: NO, I -- GILLES, YEAH, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE STUCK A PIN IN KAMLOOPS BEFORE, HAVE WE NOT?

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, WE HAD SOMEONE WRITE IN FOR A WEB WORKSHOP.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S RIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT A PIN IN KAMLOOPS. HELLO, GILLES, HOW ARE YOU?

>> Gilles: I'M GREAT, LEO, HOW ARE YOU DOING?

>> Leo Laporte: I'M WONDERFUL, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

>> Gilles: EXCELLENT, THANK YOU.

>> Leo Laporte: PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR MOCKING, OR REALLY NOT MOCKING, BUT MURDERING THE NAME KAMLOOPS THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, I THINK I'VE GOT IT NOW, IT'S KAMLOOPS.

>> Gilles: ACTUALLY, WE JUST MOVED HERE RECENTLY OURSELVES AND IT TAKES SOME GETTING USED TO.

>> Leo Laporte: (Laughing) IT'S NOT AN EASY WORD! SO YOU LOOK AT IT ON THE PAGE, YOU GO, WANNA SAY OOMPA-LOOMPA, YOU DON'T KNOW, IT'S -- OH SEE, NOW I'M GONNA GET IN TROUBLE AGAIN WITH EVERYBODY IN KAMLOOPS. WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU, GILLES?

>> Gilles:\A

>> Leo Laporte: OH NEAT! OKAY.

>> Gilles: AND SHE LOVES IT. BUT IT'S GOT AN MP3 PLAYER BUILT IT AND SHE HAS RECENTLY ACQUIRED SOME, SOME MUSIC CDs AND SOME RELAXATION CDs AND SHE WANTS TO RIP THEM INTO MP3s.

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH.

>> Gilles:\A

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>> Gilles: AND THE QUESTION IS, SOME OF THE CDs HAVE SOME SUBLIMINAL STUFF, THE RELAXATION ONES IN PARTICULAR, AND SHE WAS \A

>> Leo Laporte: GILLES, THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION. HERE IT IS, THE 7135, IT'S PALM- BASED, SO IT'S A, IT'S A -- THE PALM MP3 PLAYER, BUT YOU SAY IT ONLY SUPPORTS MP3s, NOT WAVS OR ANY UNCOMPRESSED FORMAT.

>> Gilles: THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY. THEN YOU ASK A VERY GOOD QUESTION. CAN YOU HEAR, ON THESE SUBLIMINAL TAPES, CAN YOU ACTUALLY HEAR THE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES?

>> Gilles: I REALLY DON'T KNOW AND --

>> Leo Laporte: HERE'S WHY I'M ASKING.

>> Gilles: SORRY, GO AHEAD.

>> Leo Laporte: HERE'S WHY I'M ASKING. THE WAY LOSSY COMPRESSION OF ANY KIND, FOR EITHER AUDIO OR VIDEO OR PICTURES, YOU KNOW, STILLS WORKS, IS BY REMOVING THINGS YOU CANNOT PERCEIVE.

>> Gilles: RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: SO AN MP3, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY INTERESTING, I HAD THE GUY WHO INVENTED MP3 EXPLAIN IT TO ME ON THE SCREEN SAVERS ONCE AND IT TURNS OUT, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE EAR, WHEN, WHEN IT, IT'S HEARING A PARTICULAR FREQUENCY, THERE ARE SIDE FREQUENCIES THAT IT DOES NOT HEAR, THE WAY THE EAR WORKS AND IT'S JUST A MATHEMATICAL MODEL FOR THE WAY THE EAR WORKS, IT CAN HEAR THIS FREQUENCY, BUT NOT THESE SIDE FREQUENCIES. SO THEY, ONCE THEY REALISED THIS, THEY SAID, OH, GREAT. WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT DATA. AND IT'LL SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME, 'CAUSE THE EAR WASN'T HEARING THAT ANYWAY. SO YOUR QUESTION IS VERY APROPOS, BECAUSE IF THE SIDE FREQUENCIES ARE WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THOSE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET CONVERTED. THEY'RE GONE!

>> Gilles: RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO THEY PUT SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES IN, ARE THEY JUST VERY LOW, ARE THEY VERY QUIET? CAN YOU HEAR THEM AT ALL? YOU KNOW, IS THE WATER GOING TRICKLE, TRICKLE, TRICKLE AND YOU HEAR SOMEBODY SAYING, YOU'RE GETTING RICH. IF THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN HEAR THAT, THEN THE CHANCES ARE IT'LL STAY THERE. BUT IF YOU COULDN'T HEAR IT IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND THEN I'VE GOTTA WONDER, IS THERE REALLY ANYTHING IN THERE, YOU'RE JUST TAKING THEIR WORD FOR IT, RIGHT? AND NUMBER TWO, YOU MAY WELL LOSE IT IF IT'S IN MP3.

>> Gilles: OKAY, WELL, I CAN'T BE SURE, BECAUSE THESE ARE KIND OF SYNTHESISED SOUNDS, THERE ARE NOT ANY, THERE'S NO VOICE OR, YOU KNOW, NATURE SOUNDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY'RE JUST KIND OF SYNTHESISED --

>> Leo Laporte: IT ALSO, IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES.

>> Gilles:\A

>> Leo Laporte: WELL THEN, DON'T TELL HER.

>> Gilles: -- THAT THEY COME \A

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, DON'T TELL HER, SAY THAT THE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES ARE STILL IN THERE. AND, AND 'CAUSE HERE'S THE THING. IF SHE CAN'T HEAR 'EM NOW AND MP3 REMOVES 'EM AND SHE CAN'T HEAR 'EM THEN, SO WHAT?

>> Gilles: RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: SHE WASN'T HEARING 'EM IN THE FIRST PLACE!

>> Gilles: OKAY.

>> Leo Laporte: IF SHE CAN HEAR THEM, THEN THE MP3 ALGORITHM SHOULD NOT, IN THEORY, REMOVE THEM.

>> Gilles: RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: IT ONLY IS REMOVING STUFF YOU CAN'T HEAR. NOW IT'S NOT PERFECT, SO IT DOES ADD ARTEFACT AND SOMETIMES IT REMOVES MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN IT SHOULD THEY'VE SPENT A LONG TIME. I WOULD USE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST QUALITY YOU CAN ON THAT THING, YOU KNOW, IF IT SUPPORTS 160, 192, EVEN ALL THE WAY UP TO 320, DO THAT, 'CAUSE THAT'LL REMOVE LESS, RIGHT?

>> Gilles: A VARIABLE BIT RATE VERSUS THE CONSTANT?

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, LEMME TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT THAT IS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'LL HELP YOU WITH SUBLIMINAL. BUT IT, BUT IT, BUT IT TURNS OUT THE MORE COMPLEX PASSAGES REQUIRE MORE -- A HIGHER BIT RATE, RIGHT, WE GOTTA REPRESENT MORE DATA. YOU KNOW. SIMPLE PASSAGES REQUIRE LESS, UH, DATA, LESS BITS, SO VARIABLE BIT RATE JUST, YOU SET A, YOU SET A KIND OF A FLOOR, YOU SAY NORMALLY RECORD AT 128, BUT IF YOU NEED MORE, IF IT GETS REAL COMPLEX, GO UP. SO THAT MIGHT HELP, IT MIGHT HELP. IT'S THE COMPLEXITY OF THE, OF THE MUSIC, HOWEVER, NOT -- IF IT BELIEVES THAT YOUR WIFE ISN'T HEARING IT, IT'S GONNA TAKE IT OUT ANYWAY.

>> Gilles: RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: SO THE V.B.R., THE VARIABLE BIT RATE, WON'T HELP YOU THERE, 'CAUSE THE ALGORITHM'S SAYING, WELL, SHE CAN'T HEAR IT, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER, I'M NOT GONNA TAKE MORE BITS TO REPRESENT SOMETHING SHE CANNOT HEAR. BUT IF THE ALGORITHM BELIEVES SHE CAN HEAR IT, THE MORE BITS MAY HELP, BECAUSE IT'LL DO A BETTER JOB OF REPRODUCING IT. IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO DO YOU BELIEVE IN SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES, HOW ARE THEY ENCODING THOSE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES IN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I WOULD SAY, CHANCES ARE, PROBABLY, JUST BETWEEN YOU AND ME, DON'T TELL YOUR WIFE THIS, BETWEEN YOU AND ME, GILLES, PROBABLY THE MP3 IS TAKING OUT THE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES.

>> Gilles: SHE WATCHES THE SHOW, LEO, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN --

>> Leo Laporte: OH, DANG! WHAT'S HER NAME?

>> Gilles: ROBIN.

>> Leo Laporte: (Softly) ROBIN, YOU CAN HEAR THE MESSAGES. ROBIN, YOU CAN HEAR THE MESSAGES. (in normal voice) I THINK THAT'S THE TRICK, IS JUST TO SAY, YEAH, OH YEAH, NO, LEO SAID IT WAS OKAY, YOU COULD HEAR THE MESSAGES, IT'S IN THERE, YOU'RE HEARING THE MESSAGES AND SHE'LL STILL FEEL RELAXED.

>> Gilles: OKAY, I'LL PASS IT ON.

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S A FASCINATING QUESTION AND YOU KNOW, THE NEXT TIME I TALK TO KLAUS MARIA BRANDAUER, THE GUY WHO INVENTED MP3, I WILL SAY, WHAT HAPPENS TO SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES? HE'S PROBABLY GONNA SAY -- (with German accent) THERE ARE NO SUCH THING, LEO.

>> Gilles: RIGHT!

>> Leo Laporte: THANKS, GILLES.

>> Gilles: THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.

>> Leo Laporte: HAVE A GREAT DAY, TAKE CARE.

>> Gilles: BYE.

>> Leo Laporte: WHO SINGS "IF I HAD A MILLION DOLLARS"? IS IT BARENAKED LADIES?

>> Andy Walker: BARENAKED LADIES, YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: BARENAKED LADIES, I GOT IT! LET'S TEST OUR MUSIC I.Q. RIGHT NOW, IT'S OUR FREE FILE OF THE DAY, IT'S AN iTUNE MUSIC QUIZ AND AMBER AND I ARE GONNA PLAY EACH OTHER, WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO PRACTISE THIS.

>> Amber MacArthur: WE HAVEN'T PRACTISED --

>> Leo Laporte: SO YOU HAVE TO SHOW ME HOW TO USE IT.

>> Amber MacArthur: -- BUT I CAN TEACH YOU PRETTY QUICKLY.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY, I'M GONNA BE GOOD.

>> Amber MacArthur: OKAY, SO --

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S KEYBOARD?

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, IT'S ALL IN THE KEYBOARD, SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS THE SONGS ARE GONNA --

>> Leo Laporte: CAN YOU SEE, THIS IS CALLED "NAME THAT iTUNE".

>> Amber MacArthur: NAME THAT iTUNE.

>> Leo Laporte: SO IT COMES FROM THE PLAY LIST OF YOUR, OF YOUR --

>> Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY, IT COMES FROM iTUNES, FROM YOUR iTUNES LIBRARY ACTUALLY.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY.

>> Amber MacArthur: AND THEN THE SONGS WILL COME UP IN THE ORDER THAT YOU HAVE TO --

>> Leo Laporte: DO I HAVE TO PLAY, PRESS A NUMBER?

>> Amber MacArthur: OKAY, SO THESE ARE YOUR NUMBERS.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, EQUALS, OKAY, I GOT IT, EQUALS.

>> Amber MacArthur: ALL DOWN THERE, SEE?

>> Leo Laporte: YEAH, YEAH, OKAY, EQUALS --

>> Amber MacArthur: ALL FOUR OF THEM, YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: -- BRACKET, SEMICOLON AND COMMA IS ONE, TWO, THREE, OR FOUR, OKAY. OKAY, I'M READY.

>> Amber MacArthur: OKAY, YOU READY?

>> Leo Laporte: LET'S NAME THAT iTUNE!

>> Amber MacArthur: ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.

>> Leo Laporte: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

>> Amber MacArthur: OKAY.

>> Leo Laporte: OH, WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO IT.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY, SO DON'T MAKE ANY STRANGE MUSIC. \M YOU CAN BE MY YOKO ONO \M

>> Leo Laporte: OH, OH, OH, OH.

>> Amber MacArthur: OH, OH!

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S BARENAKED LADIES.

>> Amber MacArthur: OH, YOU'RE FAST!

>> Leo Laporte: I GOT IT. I GOT IT!

>> Amber MacArthur: OKAY, WAIT, WAIT. OH, THIS IS MIKEY'S.

>> Leo Laporte: THIS IS MIKEY LAZAZZERA?

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, IT'S HIS ORIGINAL MIX. (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S NOT FAIR!

>> Amber MacArthur: I KNOW, SORRY. \M JANE \M \M ISN'T \M

>> Leo Laporte: I'M WINNING BIG- TIME. (Singing)

>> Amber MacArthur: UH, UH, OH! YOU ARE WINNING.

>> Amber MacArthur: OH, I DON'T KNOW THIS ONE.

>> Leo Laporte: GUESS.

>> Amber MacArthur: SEE, WHEN YOU GUESS, YOU LOSE POINTS, SO JUST BE CAREFUL.

>> Leo Laporte: OH! DON'T GUESS.

>> Amber MacArthur: YUP.

>> -- MISTER, IF HENRY HAD CALLED --

>> Amber MacArthur: (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: WHAT THE HECK IS THAT?

>> Amber MacArthur: THAT'S AN AUDIO TAPE, YEAH. \M YOU CAN BE MY YOKO ONO \M

>> Leo Laporte: I KNOW THAT ONE! I LIKE THAT SONG. ARE THEY REALLY BARENAKED, THOUGH?

>> Amber MacArthur: NO. \M THIS SONG IS THE CROSS THAT I BEAR \M \M BEAR WITH ME \M

>> Amber MacArthur: OH, LISTEN CAREFULLY, IT GETS MAD AT YOU WHEN YOU DON'T PICK THE --

>> Leo Laporte: I DO, I GOT IT WRONG. SO THIS IS COOL, SO THIS REALLY IS A TEST, NOW YOU'RE USING YOUR OWN MUSIC, SO YOU SHOULD KNOW, BUT IF YOU'RE PLAYING, SO IF YOU'RE PLAYING AGAINST SOMEBODY ON THEIR OWN MACHINE --

>> Amber MacArthur: YOU'RE IN BIG TROUBLE, YEAH, YOU'RE IN BIG TROUBLE.

>> Leo Laporte: SO IT'S "WHAT A GOOD BOY"?

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: WELL, I GOT IT WRONG.

>> Amber MacArthur: I GOT IT WRONG.

>> Leo Laporte: NOW WHAT HAPPENED? IS IT OVER? I'M, I'M NOT WINNING SO MUCH ANYMORE.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THAT GAME. LET'S SEE.

>> Leo Laporte: SO I BEAT YOU SIX CORRECT, TWO CORRECT AND WE BOTH GOT TWO WRONG.

>> Amber MacArthur: EXACTLY.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S PRETTY GOOD FOR AN OLD GUY.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, SO IT'S NOT SO BAD, YEAH. NOT SO BAD, BUT IT'S KIND OF A FUN LITTLE GAME.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT WAS REALLY FUN! I HAD WAY TOO MUCH FUN, ACTUALLY.

>> Amber MacArthur: YOU COULD ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND YOU CAN PICK UP TO -- THE GAMES CAN BE UP TO 100 SONGS.

>> Leo Laporte: REALLY!

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, YOU CAN PICK UP TO 100 SONGS AND YOU CAN PLAY BY YOURSELF, SO YOU CAN PRACTISE, I PRACTISED A LITTLE BIT, BUT --

>> Leo Laporte: YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THERE'S A GAME ON THE iPOD THAT YOU DO THE SAME THING.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, YOU WERE TELLING ME ABOUT, WHAT'S THAT CALLED?

>> Leo Laporte: WELL, IT'S JUST PART OF THE iPOD, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A NAME.

>> Amber MacArthur: OKAY.

>> Leo Laporte: I'LL SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL SHOW YOU IN THE, I'LL SHOW YOU, I HAVE MY iPOD OVER HERE. AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR, BUT YOU CAN ONLY PLAY IT YOURSELF, SO THIS IS KIND OF FUN.

>> Amber MacArthur: THIS IS KIND OF FUN, BECAUSE IT -- YEAH, MIKEY AND I PLAYED PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX GAMES --

>> Leo Laporte: AND DID YOU BEAT HIM?

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, I WON EVERY TIME.

>> Leo Laporte: THIS IS HIS MUSIC.

>> Leo Laporte: WELL, LET'S SEE, YOU BEAT HIM.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: AND I BEAT YOU.

>> Amber MacArthur: I KNOW.

>> Leo Laporte: SO I BEAT YOU!

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH -- WE ALL, WE ALL BEAT MIKEY BASICALLY. (Laughing) OH, POOR MIKEY.

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S HIS MUSIC!

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, HE MADE SOME SONGS, TOO, IN GARAGE BAND, SO IT WAS KIND OF COOL, SO I THINK HE WON ON THOSE.

>> Leo Laporte: ISN'T THAT FUNNY, YOU LIKE GARAGE BAND, MIKE? ISN'T THAT -- YEAH, SO THAT'S THE BEST REASON TO BUY A --

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, IT DEFINITELY IS.

>> Leo Laporte: NAME THAT iTUNES.

>> Amber MacArthur: NAME THAT iTUNE, WE'RE GONNA PUT A LINK FOR THIS ON callforhelptv.com IN OUR FREE FILE ARCHIVE.

>> Leo Laporte: YOU WANNA DO ANOTHER ROUND?

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, WE COULD PLAY ANOTHER GAME.

>> Leo Laporte: WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK, WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU HOW YOU CAN BE ON THE SHOW -- OH! I DID A CALL ALREADY, YEAH, OKAY, SO WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. OKAY, LET'S GO, READY, I'M READY TO GO.

>> Amber MacArthur: ALL RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: STAY RIGHT HERE.

>> Amber MacArthur: OKAY.

>> Leo Laporte: PLAY SOME MUSIC.

>> Amber MacArthur: HERE WE GO.

>> Leo Laporte: HERE WE GO.

>> \A

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE, I THINK.

>> Amber MacArthur: (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: I KNOW "EYE OF THE TIGER" BY SURVIVOR. ALL RIGHT, SO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS GAME IS STILL -- IS ALSO ON THE iPOD AND YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU ASKED ME WHAT THE NAME OF IT IS, IT'S GOT A REALLY GOOD NAME, IT'S CALLED "MUSIC QUIZ".

>> Amber MacArthur: MUSIC QUIZ.

>> Leo Laporte: SO WHAT, WHAT IT IS, OKAY, YOU, YOU, YOU PLAY THE GAME, MUSIC QUIZ, I'M GONNA START IT NOW, IT'S GONNA SPIT UP AND IT PICKS SOMETHING FROM YOUR, YOU KNOW --

>> -- AND IRONICALLY, WE WERE BOTH --

>> Leo Laporte: OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK THAT IS. OKAY, LET'S GO, I'LL FIND SOMETHING THAT'S -- QUINCY JONES. OH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS FROM "THRILLER".

>> Amber MacArthur: OH!

>> Leo Laporte: OKAY. (Singing)

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S ITS. WHAT -- NOW YOU'RE GONNA MAKE FUN OF MY MUSIC! YOU'RE GONNA MAKE FUN OF MY MUSIC, THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR COUNTRYWOMAN, JONI MITCHELL.

>> Amber MacArthur: OH!

>> Andy Walker: OH, YAY.

>> HA, HA!

>> Leo Laporte: WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF MUSIC ON HERE, YOU CAN HAVE SOME BAD STUFF.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, I'M SURE.

>> Andy Walker: (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: I PLAY THIS ON THE PLANE, ACTUALLY, IT'S REALLY FUN.

>> Amber MacArthur: THAT'S GREAT.

>> Leo Laporte: IT'S HARDER THAN YOU THINK, THOUGH, BECAUSE YOU ONLY GET THE FIRST FEW -- ACTUALLY, THEY TAKE RANDOM, THEY DON'T TAKE THE BEGINNING, JUST A RANDOM PART AND JUST A FEW, FEW SECONDS, SO YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME IN HERE.

>> Amber MacArthur: HOW MANY SONGS DO HAVE ON THERE?

>> Leo Laporte: LEMME SEE, I THINK ABOUT 3,000 OR 4,000, IT'S A 30-GIG iPOD, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE ON HERE IS A LOT OF BOOKS. THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S -- NO, THAT WAS QUINCY JONES, YEAH, I BOUGHT, YEAH, THAT WAS A MISTAKE. I BOUGHT THE THRILLER LIKE 20th ANNIVERSARY THING AND IT'S GOT QUINCY JONES TALKING ON AND ON AND ON.

>> Andy Walker: YOU HAVE GREAT TASTE IN MUSIC.

>> Leo Laporte: YOU LIKE THAT? IT WAS THE BEST-SELLING ALBUM OF ALL TIME, DUDE!

>> Amber MacArthur: ANDY LIKES '80s MUSIC.

>> Leo Laporte: DO YA?

>> Andy Walker: OH YEAH.

>> Leo Laporte: WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE BAND?

>> Andy Walker: DURAN DURAN, OF COURSE. NOT ABBA!

>> Leo Laporte: NOT DURAN DURAN, REALLY?

>> Andy Walker: YEAH, BUT, BUT ACTUALLY I LIKE THEIR, THE WEDDING ALBUM IN THE '80s.

>> Leo Laporte: "HUNGRY LIKE A WOLF"?

>> Andy Walker: YEAH, THAT WAS THEIR, THAT WAS, THAT WAS '80s, BUT IN THE '90s THEY HAD THE, THE WEDDING ALBUM AND IT WAS FANTASTIC.

>> Leo Laporte: OH YEAH, WHEN THEY WERE REALLY GOOD.

>> Amber MacArthur: (Laughing)

>> Leo Laporte: I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SOUND LIKE NOW. WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE GROUP?

>> Amber MacArthur: MY FAVOURITE GROUP IS PROBABLY, I LIKE MACY GREY, THAT KIND OF --

>> Leo Laporte: MACY GREY, YEAH, YOU SAW HER, DIDN'T YOU, YEAH.

>> Amber MacArthur: YEAH, SAW HER AT... PARK.

>> Leo Laporte: IN SAN FRANCISCO.

>> Amber MacArthur: WITH, YEAH, DAVE MATTHEWS.

>> Leo Laporte: THAT'S COOL. YEAH. AND I LIKE AARON CARTER.

>> Andy Walker: YAY! ALL RIGHT.

>> Leo Laporte: \M I WANT CANDY \M SO IF YOU WANNA JOIN US ON THE SHOW, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT MUSIC OR PLAY A QUIZ OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO OUR WEB SITE, callforhelptv.com AND, AND CLICK THAT BUTTON, ASK A QUESTION, FILL OUT THE FROM AND WE'LL GET YOU ON THE SHOW. WE LOVE YOUR CALLS. CLOSED CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY: BROADCAST CAPTIONING & CONSULTING SERVICES INC. www.closedcaptioning.com